Single skin garage wall - attaching wood to it help

Single skin garage wall - attaching wood to it help

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richatnort

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3,149 posts

138 months

Sunday 22nd September
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Hi all,

I’m going to get solar and a battery installed shortly and I’d like the gubbins to go onto ply rather than the contractor blast loads of holes into my single skin wall and I think it’ll generally look neater too.

I’m stuck as to what I should do though to prevent any issue going forward, am I over thinking it and can I just whack some thick ply onto the wall and assume it’ll be ok? It’s an integrated garage it’s just the external wall only has 1 layer of bricks and no cavity, etc.

Do I need to build a frame and put insulation on it?

Simpo Two

87,040 posts

272 months

Sunday 22nd September
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if you're worried about moisture, you could screw two battens to the wall and the screw the plywood to that, so that air can circulate behind it. Or use marine ply, or use the internal wall.

mikebradford

2,710 posts

152 months

Sunday 22nd September
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If you have suffient space just build an independent timber frame and face in plywood.
That way no fixings are required into your existing wall.

Cow Corner

297 posts

37 months

Sunday 22nd September
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Has the installer confirmed that the equipment can be installed onto plywood (ie a combustible material)?

dxg

8,761 posts

267 months

Sunday 22nd September
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Simpo Two said:
if you're worried about moisture, you could screw two battens to the wall and the screw the plywood to that, so that air can circulate behind it. Or use marine ply, or use the internal wall.
Run some DPC vertically between each batten and the brick.

Although, surely the batteries will have to sit on the floor. They're heavy and a single skin wall isn't all that strong.

Simpo Two

87,040 posts

272 months

Sunday 22nd September
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Cow Corner said:
Has the installer confirmed that the equipment can be installed onto plywood (ie a combustible material)?
Actually, what about the rest of the garage? If the lithium battery grenades itself a bit of plywood will be fairly irrelevant, and there's a house attached.

119

9,504 posts

43 months

Sunday 22nd September
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I thought battery storage had to be outside now?

dobly

1,288 posts

166 months

Monday 23rd September
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^ Doesn’t have to be, is recommended though.
Items such as a Tesla PowerWall 3 are designed to be outdoors (can cope with up to 600mm of flooding), but you can have them in an outbuilding such as a garage..
Latest regs are to stop idiots from putting batteries & inverters in loft spaces…

pghstochaj

2,488 posts

126 months

Monday 23rd September
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Normally installers use cement board.

Belle427

9,738 posts

240 months

Monday 23rd September
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Fix the ply to the wall and move on with life, if you are that concerned get some pressure treated 3x2 timber up there first and fix to that.

richatnort

Original Poster:

3,149 posts

138 months

Monday 23rd September
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Thanks all so far, i am fairly certain i'll go with sticking it to the wall.

I'll look at cement board vs ply but as you've said the battery will be on the ground but all the isolator switches, the inverter, their own consumer unit, etc will all need to be attached to the wall and i'd rather now have 100's of holes in my brick work and I think it'll generally look better on a bit of ply as they might even feel the need to make it look good as it'll be on there.

4Q

3,477 posts

151 months

Monday 23rd September
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If the installer is MCS registered then he will have to follow the correct standard and mount the inverter on a heat resistant surface, not plywood. Direct to the brick wall would be fine btw as would cement board or plasterboard. If he suggests its ok to use plywood I would question what other standards he's ignoring.

Rushjob

1,982 posts

265 months

Monday 23rd September
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4Q said:
If the installer is MCS registered then he will have to follow the correct standard and mount the inverter on a heat resistant surface, not plywood. Direct to the brick wall would be fine btw as would cement board or plasterboard. If he suggests its ok to use plywood I would question what other standards he's ignoring.
This^^^^^

richatnort

Original Poster:

3,149 posts

138 months

Monday 23rd September
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Rushjob said:
4Q said:
If the installer is MCS registered then he will have to follow the correct standard and mount the inverter on a heat resistant surface, not plywood. Direct to the brick wall would be fine btw as would cement board or plasterboard. If he suggests its ok to use plywood I would question what other standards he's ignoring.
This^^^^^
Ah ha! Noted! I guess there's no harm in my doing ply and then adding cement board to just where the inverter is going on top of the ply?

dhutch

15,251 posts

204 months

Tuesday 24th September
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Cow Corner said:
Has the installer confirmed that the equipment can be installed onto plywood (ie a combustible material)?
Mmmm

dhutch

15,251 posts

204 months

Tuesday 24th September
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richatnort said:
Thanks all so far, i am fairly certain i'll go with sticking it to the wall.
Might not be your intention, but I would certainly not be relying on adhesive to bond the mounting to the wall.

Mechanical fixings all the way, and as said, if driving rain or wanting rear entry of cables, space the board off the wall.

richatnort

Original Poster:

3,149 posts

138 months

Tuesday 24th September
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dhutch said:
Might not be your intention, but I would certainly not be relying on adhesive to bond the mounting to the wall.

Mechanical fixings all the way, and as said, if driving rain or wanting rear entry of cables, space the board off the wall.
Sorry bad wording! Most definitely going to be screwed to the wall haha!