Leaded light repair - what's the verdict?

Leaded light repair - what's the verdict?

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Willhire89

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1,365 posts

212 months

Thursday 19th September
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A picture paints a thousand words:

dingg

4,233 posts

226 months

Thursday 19th September
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Someone is taking the piss, either you or the clown who 'repaired' it

DonkeyApple

58,945 posts

176 months

Thursday 19th September
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Willhire89 said:
A picture paints a thousand words:
And raises a 100 questions. biggrin

All repairable but I'd guess they'd need the window out ideally?

I imagine it boils down to speaking to all the local pros and gauging their opinion as to whether they can mend in situe?

V8 Animal

5,981 posts

217 months

Thursday 19th September
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That’s a huge issue, ideally whole LL needs removing for professional repair, however it would collapse, no idea how you transport a bend.

Willhire89

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212 months

Thursday 19th September
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DonkeyApple said:
Willhire89 said:
A picture paints a thousand words:
And raises a 100 questions. biggrin

All repairable but I'd guess they'd need the window out ideally?

I imagine it boils down to speaking to all the local pros and gauging their opinion as to whether they can mend in situe?
It is a leaded light in a guest room used for visiting academics at a Cambridge College.....it was 'repaired' by their in house maintenance team.

I met with the bursar yesterday to review and make a plan - interestingly you'll see it is curved and each glass pane curves 12mm to make that happen so the missing ones will have to be remade. It is definitely coming out and will be re-leaded and should be like new again. There are actually four that are collapsing but this was the worst of the bodges.

The bursar was a bit embarrassed at his maintenance team 'solution'

Willhire89

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Thursday 19th September
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V8 Animal said:
That’s a huge issue, ideally whole LL needs removing for professional repair, however it would collapse, no idea how you transport a bend.
I'm going to have to build a curved former so that I can lay up these leaded lights. It will collapse as it comes out but all the glass will be marked for location so it can go back together exactly as it was.

OutInTheShed

9,324 posts

33 months

Thursday 19th September
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Willhire89 said:
It is a leaded light in a guest room used for visiting academics at a Cambridge College.....it was 'repaired' by their in house maintenance team.

I met with the bursar yesterday to review and make a plan - interestingly you'll see it is curved and each glass pane curves 12mm to make that happen so the missing ones will have to be remade. It is definitely coming out and will be re-leaded and should be like new again. There are actually four that are collapsing but this was the worst of the bodges.

The bursar was a bit embarrassed at his maintenance team 'solution'
To be fair, the immediate requirement is probably to keep the wind and rain out, without doing anything irreversible, and to prevent further damage.
A temporary bodge wth gorilla snot ticks those boxes?

Rosscow

9,011 posts

170 months

Thursday 19th September
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Will be a very expensive fix, brace yourself!

Aluminati

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65 months

Thursday 19th September
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Rosscow said:
Will be a very expensive fix, brace yourself!
Not necessarily, I was tasked with getting this one refurbed at Bletchley Park, only 12k biggrin


Vsix and Vtec

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25 months

Thursday 19th September
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I'm going to have to make a note of your name. I adore stained glass and leaded windows, to the point where it's likely my next house will be chosen because it has said features. Wonderful that there's still craftsman out there able to work on these period features.

DonkeyApple

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176 months

Friday 20th September
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Willhire89 said:
I'm going to have to build a curved former so that I can lay up these leaded lights. It will collapse as it comes out but all the glass will be marked for location so it can go back together exactly as it was.
Be interesting to see updates on the thread of the client doesn't object?

Lotobear

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135 months

Friday 20th September
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Willhire89 said:
V8 Animal said:
That’s a huge issue, ideally whole LL needs removing for professional repair, however it would collapse, no idea how you transport a bend.
I'm going to have to build a curved former so that I can lay up these leaded lights. It will collapse as it comes out but all the glass will be marked for location so it can go back together exactly as it was.
Would it not be less trouble to remove that section of the window frame, complete with glass, and ship it off to a specialist for reburbishment?

I've used this firm before on heritage jobs - not local for you but perhaps worth a call to discuss?

https://www.albionglass.net/

netherfield

2,786 posts

191 months

Friday 20th September
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Chiodo Glass

01484 306510

V8 Animal

5,981 posts

217 months

Friday 20th September
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Lotobear said:
Would it not be less trouble to remove that section of the window frame, complete with glass, and ship it off to a specialist for reburbishment?

I've used this firm before on heritage jobs - not local for you but perhaps worth a call to discuss?

https://www.albionglass.net/
LL would need to be removed to locate screws that were fitted 100 years ago, not a option.

J6542

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51 months

Friday 20th September
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A sheet of 6mm Perspex and a black sharpie is all you need

fiesta_STage3

225 posts

30 months

Friday 20th September
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i have a handful of relatively minor leaded/ stained glass repairs needed doing - any recommendations for folks near cambridge?

Lotobear

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135 months

Friday 20th September
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V8 Animal said:
Lotobear said:
Would it not be less trouble to remove that section of the window frame, complete with glass, and ship it off to a specialist for reburbishment?

I've used this firm before on heritage jobs - not local for you but perhaps worth a call to discuss?

https://www.albionglass.net/
LL would need to be removed to locate screws that were fitted 100 years ago, not a option.
. Done it before - run a plunge tool down the sides and cut any screws or tenons then remove the unit. Trying to remove an old curved leaded light is not a realistic option, it will fold like a pack of cards.

Willhire89

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212 months

Sunday 22nd September
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To update the thread

I was not looking for a specialist to take on the work - I look after a raft of the Colleges here in Cambridge although this is a new one. The interim repair is heavy handed given it is an active guest room but it worked.

I can get new curved glass panes and they will be formed up by an excellent firm I use in Runcorn and will be £60 each.

What comes out will collapse I'm sure but it will all be marked so it can be put back exactly - salvaging the glass intact is all that matters. The client is happy to rely on the secondary while the leaded lights are away. There's no question of stripping out the entire casement with all the collateral work that could entail.

It is quite a light gauge lead came (1/4") that has been used but there are internal re-bars to tie to.

Not fully costed yet as there are height access issues to address but they will probably be £700 each all told with new leadwork, sealed and installed.


pidsy

8,198 posts

164 months

Sunday 22nd September
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Do you do work in NW London?

R_von_S

130 posts

220 months

Wednesday 25th September
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fiesta_STage3 said:
i have a handful of relatively minor leaded/ stained glass repairs needed doing - any recommendations for folks near cambridge?
http://www.kettonglass.co.uk

iirc, he was active on here too.