Budget boiling water tap recomendations?

Budget boiling water tap recomendations?

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3 posts

67 months

Sunday 4th August
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Hi all. I've been fancying for a boiling water tap lately. I'm currently on a tight budget due to baby etc so was thinking of buying a used one on eBay. Does anyone have any advice or recommendations on ones that are good value for money as it seems a lot of the money goes into the tap finish. If i buy cheap second hand and it doesn't last too long I don't mind too much - if i like it it'll help me justify replacing it with a better one. I'm seeing Victorian plumbing and the likes have their own in-house brand offerings at a more budget friendly price. I know you get qhat you pay for but as long as the system was faster than waiting for a kettle i'd be happy

Also I might buy a second hand quooker tank and pair it with a more budget 3 in 1 tap but I'm unsure if this is possible, maybe somebody on here has tried that.

Thoughts welcome... I believe these will become fairly standard equipment in years to come.

eltax91

10,049 posts

213 months

Sunday 4th August
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We had a Franke when they were just about the only ones on the market. Loads of trouble and largely complete junk.

After half a dozen warrant ‘repairs’ I binned the lot and spent half as much on a Qettle. Been fantastic now for 18 months.

skilly1

2,744 posts

202 months

Sunday 4th August
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We use one of these at work and has been fine and on the budget end of the scale.

https://www.plumbworld.co.uk/insinkerator-kitchen-...

Aluminati

2,755 posts

65 months

Tuesday 6th August
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What’s the water hardness in your area like, and are you on a softener ?

nikaiyo2

5,027 posts

202 months

Tuesday 6th August
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https://www.qettle.com/


Really good, had one for 3 or 4 years ish and very happy, had a quooker in old flat and there is not much to choose between them.

mikeiow

6,221 posts

137 months

Tuesday 6th August
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Our v1 Quooker is now 16 years old & ought to probably be replaced....they haven't offered a brilliant upgrade offer.
Wondering about the Qettle....but we now rarely have 'regular' tea - mostly green/jasmine/white, etc, plus coffee.....& those recommend NOT boiling water, so I am wondering about one of the other taps that are not quite boiling taps!

Any suggestions will be taken on board and stored for future us.

We are also in a hard water area, and decoking the Quooker is a ball-ache....looks like Qettle's want a new filter every 6 months, which sounds a lot....


eliot

11,727 posts

261 months

Tuesday 6th August
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I understand how they are useful in an office kitchen - but fail to see the point for domestic use apart from novelty/fashion.

/dons heatproof suit to protect from the hot tap fanbois/

mikeiow

6,221 posts

137 months

Tuesday 6th August
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eliot said:
I understand how they are useful in an office kitchen - but fail to see the point for domestic use apart from novelty/fashion.

/dons heatproof suit to protect from the hot tap fanbois/
Heh heh!
Hey, you’re entitled to your opinion, of course.
If it were purely financial, I’d perhaps agree - you can buy an awful lot of kettles for the cost of even a cheap hot tap!

However….having owned one for many years - which clearly makes me a fanboy - I can honestly say it is used multiple times on almost every day, and saves a huge amount of time.
If time isn’t important, again, use a kettle!

Have you ever lived in a house that has one? Honestly, it is the one “luxury” kitchen gadget we would NOT do without.
But that’s from a fanboi. I respect you have a view that differs to me.

Convert

3,749 posts

225 months

Tuesday 6th August
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nikaiyo2 said:
https://www.qettle.com/


Really good, had one for 3 or 4 years ish and very happy, had a quooker in old flat and there is not much to choose between them.
We put a Qettle in the kitchen a couple of years ago. Got a water leak from the ferrule on one of the pipes, just out of warranty.
Qettle were fantastic, sending a replacement. Good product and a great company to deal with.

eliot

11,727 posts

261 months

Tuesday 6th August
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mikeiow said:
saves a huge amount of time.
As a test I just boiled a cup of cold water and it took 61 seconds in my £19.99 Russell Hobs - lets assume it takes 10 seconds in a hot tap.
50 seconds x 5 cups of coffee, i think i can live with the burden of spending less than 5 minutes a day waiting for it to boil - i usually spend the time tidying the kitchen or unloading the dishwasher and it's time I'm away from the computer screen.

Each to their own I guess.

GT6k

890 posts

169 months

Tuesday 6th August
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Agree the Franke is a piece of crap and not all that cheap. Quooker is fabulous and is easily descaled.

mikeiow

6,221 posts

137 months

Tuesday 6th August
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eliot said:
mikeiow said:
saves a huge amount of time.
As a test I just boiled a cup of cold water and it took 61 seconds in my £19.99 Russell Hobs - lets assume it takes 10 seconds in a hot tap.
50 seconds x 5 cups of coffee, i think i can live with the burden of spending less than 5 minutes a day waiting for it to boil - i usually spend the time tidying the kitchen or unloading the dishwasher and it's time I'm away from the computer screen.

Each to their own I guess.
Ahhh, it doesn’t take 10 seconds, that is the entire point - it is literally available IMMEDIATELY, coming out boiling when you turn the tap.

Sure, for one person with time on their hands, that is fine - that’s why I am perfectly happy for you to have your view. Seriously: almost all of my pals have a kettle, no hot tap, and live happy lives!
In contrast, the only other ones I know who own a hot tap would *never* do without it.

I feel it is similar to some car features. I couldn’t have a car without some features (adaptive cruise, heated seats, adaptive headlights, etc) that most people have perhaps never experienced and therefore won’t miss. Absolutely fine!

For a family, or even a couple, who boil veg, make pots of tea/coffee etc, those times add up. Coming down in the morning and getting the tea in the cup immediately to take back up after a stir….it saves time over the months and years.

& yes, I realise I am by definition a ‘fanboi’ for them, but we all live our own experiences. As you say, each to their own.


Meanwhile, back on topic: has the OP got any other recommendations after the Qettle, and does anyone have a not-quite-boiling option we might consider at some point?

Stanley Rous

95 posts

216 months

Tuesday 6th August
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Have a Quooker which has been trouble free since it went in in 2017 and would never go back now. Like an electric boot/tailgate or electric garage door, completely unnecessary but once you’ve had the convenience there’s no going back.

Can’t help with a budget one but don’t think you’ll regret stretching yourself, OP.

On a cost perspective, means we are only heating the small tank under the kitchen sink rather than the hot water tank upstairs.

Also, non-boiling hot water in the kitchen comes from this and instant non boiling hot water is overlooked but bloody brilliant. Whenever I am elsewhere, perhaps a holiday let and I'm wasting water waiting for the hot to run through I’m reminded how convenient it is.

I’d survive without central locking or by using wind up windows but I wouldn’t want to.

ThingsBehindTheSun

1,237 posts

38 months

Tuesday 6th August
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eliot said:
As a test I just boiled a cup of cold water and it took 61 seconds in my £19.99 Russell Hobs - lets assume it takes 10 seconds in a hot tap.
50 seconds x 5 cups of coffee, i think i can live with the burden of spending less than 5 minutes a day waiting for it to boil - i usually spend the time tidying the kitchen or unloading the dishwasher and it's time I'm away from the computer screen.

Each to their own I guess.
I am with you on this one, plus if my £20 kettle breaks I chick it in the bin and buy a new one. Plus I can easily descale it in 10 minutes by using a 50 pence sachet of desclaer.

I have used boiling taps at my office and the water never seems to be as hot as a kettle and makes a rubbish cup of tea.

The idea of spending 100s if not £1000 on a hot tap that doesn't make as good tea as a cheap kettle and will cost a fortune to repair makes no sense to me.

Plus I never sit and watch the kettle thinking "well that is a minute of my life wasted"

mikeiow

6,221 posts

137 months

Tuesday 6th August
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ThingsBehindTheSun said:
eliot said:
As a test I just boiled a cup of cold water and it took 61 seconds in my £19.99 Russell Hobs - lets assume it takes 10 seconds in a hot tap.
50 seconds x 5 cups of coffee, i think i can live with the burden of spending less than 5 minutes a day waiting for it to boil - i usually spend the time tidying the kitchen or unloading the dishwasher and it's time I'm away from the computer screen.

Each to their own I guess.
I am with you on this one, plus if my £20 kettle breaks I chick it in the bin and buy a new one. Plus I can easily descale it in 10 minutes by using a 50 pence sachet of desclaer.

I have used boiling taps at my office and the water never seems to be as hot as a kettle and makes a rubbish cup of tea.

The idea of spending 100s if not £1000 on a hot tap that doesn't make as good tea as a cheap kettle and will cost a fortune to repair makes no sense to me.

Plus I never sit and watch the kettle thinking "well that is a minute of my life wasted"
Was the office one a Hydro ZipTap?

Before we had our kitchen refurb (16yrs ago!), I had a meeting with a customer, & we went to make a cuppa to start. I spotted the ZipTap (since I was mulling over a luxury item) but he told me it made awful tea because it wasn’t boiling, & proceeded to pop the kettle on!
Other not-quite boiling taps are also available, although I now know that some say tea shouldn’t use boiling water.
That was why we ended up spending out on the Quooker - like Qettle, it *is* boiling.

As I said…I totally get that a kettle will always be cheaper and entirely functional. Just not as quick….

Jimjimhim

1,519 posts

7 months

Tuesday 6th August
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They are a complete waste of money IMO, saves you seconds but costs a fortune.

renmure

4,436 posts

231 months

Tuesday 6th August
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Jimjimhim said:
They are a complete waste of money IMO, saves you seconds but costs a fortune.
I felt a bit of a muppet agreeing to a Quooker when we had a full kitchen refurb a couple of years ago but it was all so expensive anyhow that the cost just merged into a big number I blanked out of my mind.

I can't give any stick back to folk who hold the view above because I was that guy.

Now, I'd never be without one again.

Jimjimhim

1,519 posts

7 months

Tuesday 6th August
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renmure said:
Jimjimhim said:
They are a complete waste of money IMO, saves you seconds but costs a fortune.
I felt a bit of a muppet agreeing to a Quooker when we had a full kitchen refurb a couple of years ago but it was all so expensive anyhow that the cost just merged into a big number I blanked out of my mind.

I can't give any stick back to folk who hold the view above because I was that guy.

Now, I'd never be without one again.
Why do you like them so much?

Mars

9,094 posts

221 months

Tuesday 6th August
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I was a sceptic about these hot taps until we remodelled our kitchen and the supplier threw one into the deal. I drink quite a few cups of tea every day, and there's a break-point at which it's cheaper to have one of these vs a kettle but I've no idea which side of the line I stand however I can say that mine makes as good a cuppa as a kettle. Imagine a kettle having just boiled, it switches off, and you wait until all the bubbles have calmed down - maybe 20 seconds - and then you make your drink. That's how hot mine is.

The incoming water is also filtered so it doesn't need descaling - at least it hasn't these past 7 years anyway.

If I had a complaint it's that the boiling tap on my particular type (can't remember which one) is too easy to activate, so that when guests come and wish to wash their hands, they might accidentally pull the wrong lever. It only happened once but it has led to us being especially careful when new guests come, and we have to avoid letting children near it.

Ours doesn't have a filtered cold tap either which seems a shame as there is a filter in the system. I'm not sure if you can get these but if I were spec'ing one up in the future, I'd see if that were possible.

eltax91

10,049 posts

213 months

Wednesday 7th August
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Jimjimhim said:
renmure said:
Jimjimhim said:
They are a complete waste of money IMO, saves you seconds but costs a fortune.
I felt a bit of a muppet agreeing to a Quooker when we had a full kitchen refurb a couple of years ago but it was all so expensive anyhow that the cost just merged into a big number I blanked out of my mind.

I can't give any stick back to folk who hold the view above because I was that guy.

Now, I'd never be without one again.
Why do you like them so much?
Agree with Renmure. I was sceptical, wife called it during build, because she wanted ZERO clutter on the work surfaces for the "aesthetic" (yes i know, bullst, it didn't last). Although for us it was a house-build so the cost looked even tinnier. hehe

Tea/ coffee - i can now grab a brew for 2 BETWEEN meetings it's so quick, so it's worth it for that alone. But, I also was wrong, I wouldn't be without one now. Pan of pasta, vegetables, some instant gravy. Clean the teaspoon off after you've whipped the teabag out, sterilise a needle/ kids bottle/ calpol dropper.

I use ours *all* the time. It's a luxury you could easily live without of course. It's a bit like apple car play, I can live without it sure, but I don't ever want a car without it again.