Cost to re-do a small bathroom?

[bitchstewie]

Just spent a morning at the local independent trade warehouse looking at bathrooms as ours really could do with being re-done.

It's a small a room about 2Mx2M and I think I'd say I want decent quality but it's also a functional bathroom and I don't live in a mansion.

Walked away with catalogues full of Hansgrohe, Deuco and Villeroy & Boch and thinking all we need in there is a toilet, a sink and ideally a walk-in shower.

No bath.

I don't know the names of styles but nothing flash something like this for the sink unit.



A toilet - again just in terms of very rough aesthetic as we believe it has to go where the existing one is which is up against a hard tiled outer wall.



Appreciate they need to come out to measure up and quote properly but assuming something like that and a shower tray with a properly done walk in shower has anyone had anything similar size done recently and if so what was the fitting and labour cost please?

The pricing I got on materials is fine but I have no idea if a small bathroom is 3 days or 10 days.

[sherman]

We just got this done.
Full refurb. Full strip out and rebuild.
It took 4 weeks of Monday-Fridays
Tiling alone was 10 days.
We had plumbers, joiners,tilers,sparky and painter all involved.
We got the one company to provide everything and project manage everything.
Hansgrohe taps, Crosswater shower and bath fittings., electric underfloor heating, heated LED mirror.
25 ish square meters of porcelain tiles.


Price was £18000 though.

Edited by sherman on Saturday 27th April 14:01

[Vanden Saab]

Last one I did was £2700 including removing old floor and wall tiles and waste removal. Plumber took £500 and waste was £200. I am probably too cheap though at £400 per day..
Took me and apprentice 41/2 days. I would expect you to be quoted between £5 and £15k and 2 or 3 weeks.

[craig1912]

We had all the above done by one company and an ensuite with even more expensive tiles. Total was £16k inc vat.
For what you want and depending where you are in the country should be around £6k could be a good bit less.
Took two weeks, for bathroom materials were £2k and install was £4k. Ensuite materials £3k install £4k. All plus the vat.

Edited by craig1912 on Saturday 27th April 14:14

[bitchstewie]

We're not exactly getting a consensus here are we

This was what I wrote down simply as "building blocks" nothing more than finger in the air from an initial visit and chat with one of the guys down there but based on the brands above which were on display so hopefully realistic.

Toilet and cabinet/basin approx £1500
Shower "glass and tray" approx £1000 depends on size of tray and quantity of glass
Shower head and pump approx £800-1000
Radiator/towel rail approx £300
Tiles approx £1000
Taps approx £300

That's nothing more than a rough idea and there will be some bits missing of course but you can see how fitting and labour seems to be the biggest/bigger cost here

[sherman]

bhstewie said:

We're not exactly getting a consensus here are we

This was what I wrote down simply as "building blocks" nothing more than finger in the air from an initial visit and chat with one of the guys down there but based on the brands above which were on display so hopefully realistic.

Toilet and cabinet/basin approx £1500
Shower "glass and tray" approx £1000 depends on size of tray and quantity of glass
Shower head and pump approx £800-1000
Radiator/towel rail approx £300
Tiles approx £1000
Taps approx £300

That's nothing more than a rough idea and there will be some bits missing of course but you can see how fitting and labour seems to be the biggest/bigger cost here

You can add double that for fitting etc.
You will need a skip too so thats £3-500 depending on where you keep it.

[AdamV12V]

sherman said:

bhstewie said:

We're not exactly getting a consensus here are we

This was what I wrote down simply as "building blocks" nothing more than finger in the air from an initial visit and chat with one of the guys down there but based on the brands above which were on display so hopefully realistic.

Toilet and cabinet/basin approx £1500
Shower "glass and tray" approx £1000 depends on size of tray and quantity of glass
Shower head and pump approx £800-1000
Radiator/towel rail approx £300
Tiles approx £1000
Taps approx £300

That's nothing more than a rough idea and there will be some bits missing of course but you can see how fitting and labour seems to be the biggest/bigger cost here

You can add double that for fitting etc.
You will need a skip too so thats £3-500 depending on where you keep it.

None of those seem too far off overall, but deffo double it all for the fitter.

We re-did a medium sized bathroom about a year ago, BUT the re-doing was largely the replacement of a double sink (the glaze had cracked so needed replacing) and the replacement of the shower tray (tiled wet room style) which was leaking.

So bath remained untouched as did the WC. Shower was completely ripped out and walls moved a a foot or so in two directons so as to turn a 600x900 shower into a 1000x1250 shower, double sink replaced with a new Duravit sink and vanity unit. Replaced all damaged tiling with original italian porcelain tiles to match around the re-modeled shower area only. I did all the design work and sourced all the parts myself. Took the fitter 2 weeks and he was there almost every day, him and his "lad".

Total cost was about £8750, which was 50:50 high quality parts and labour.

I think these days you're hard pressed to do a decent bathroom for under £10k unless you are buying really cheapo stuff from B&Q or equiv at which point it will hugely show in the end result being underwhelming.

Edited by AdamV12V on Saturday 27th April 15:01

[Vanden Saab]

bhstewie said:

We're not exactly getting a consensus here are we

This was what I wrote down simply as "building blocks" nothing more than finger in the air from an initial visit and chat with one of the guys down there but based on the brands above which were on display so hopefully realistic.

Toilet and cabinet/basin approx £1500
Shower "glass and tray" approx £1000 depends on size of tray and quantity of glass
Shower head and pump approx £800-1000
Radiator/towel rail approx £300
Tiles approx £1000
Taps approx £300

That's nothing more than a rough idea and there will be some bits missing of course but you can see how fitting and labour seems to be the biggest/bigger cost here

That is your problem. The post above mine where the tiling was 10 days, I would tile in 21/2 days. I cannot even start to understand how that is 10 days work.
But yes, the labour will be at least as much as the fittings and if they work slowly it could be double or more

[James6112]

Just about to do mine, but will diy
5k should easily cover it.

I’d say 10k if paying the current extortionate rates!

I plan to spend £200 in a mastic man at the end though, to do a neater job than me!

Edited by James6112 on Saturday 27th April 16:25

[PositronicRay]

bhstewie said:

Just spent a morning at the local independent trade warehouse looking at bathrooms as ours really could do with being re-done.

It's a small a room about 2Mx2M and I think I'd say I want decent quality but it's also a functional bathroom and I don't live in a mansion.

Walked away with catalogues full of Hansgrohe, Deuco and Villeroy & Boch and thinking all we need in there is a toilet, a sink and ideally a walk-in shower.

No bath.

I don't know the names of styles but nothing flash something like this for the sink unit.



A toilet - again just in terms of very rough aesthetic as we believe it has to go where the existing one is which is up against a hard tiled outer wall.



Appreciate they need to come out to measure up and quote properly but assuming something like that and a shower tray with a properly done walk in shower has anyone had anything similar size done recently and if so what was the fitting and labour cost please?

The pricing I got on materials is fine but I have no idea if a small bathroom is 3 days or 10 days.

Similar to one we did earlier this year, only part tiled. Around £6k and 6 days to fit.

[Terzo123]

I paid to get two of my bathrooms sorted late last year.

This one was about 5k



And the bigger one was around 9.5k



The storage unit is now mounted on the wall



Both took a week each to do from scratch including ripping out amd plumbing. Both were fully tiled top to bottom with the tiling only taking around 2 days each to complete.

10 days for tiling is wild.

Edited by Terzo123 on Saturday 27th April 16:28

[Rough101]

It’s about £5000 in labour and consumables, plus your tiles, sanitary ware and furniture.

I done one last year at home, using every discount and mixed quality stuff, I was £3000 in materials alone, excluding tiles, but I’d some ‘waterproof’ plasterboard to rip out and replace with tile boards, the floor boards were fine.

Included. 1200x900 tray, illuminated mirror, flush Grohe shower with handset and rainfall, hidden cistern (built an enclosure with niches) close coupled pan, new extractor, new down lights, 1200 wide cabinet with solid worktop and basin on top, 1800 high storage.

Could easily have spent double for just a slight change in spec.

[Brinyan]

Just because it’s a small room, doesn’t equate to it being cheaper - the only saving being less tiles.
It’s often more difficult working in a small area, compared to a larger area where you can layout your tools, fixtures etc.
I often get told by the customer it’ll be easy & shouldn’t take too long, as it’s only a small room.
There’s a lot of work involved in a bathroom refurb, a lot of which is out of sight once the work is completed.
Huge variation in cost too - £5/£6k to much, much more.
Worth getting a recommendation from friends or family for someone to carry out the work.

[DonkeyApple]

Just had this one done which sounds a similar size to yours. I think I used plumbing world and a local tile shop for all the bits and I seem to recall it was probably around £3k although I didn't work it out at the time. The tiler did the room and brought in his own plumber and they can't have cost more than a couple of grand and took about 4 days in total over about a week and a half. They just steamed in on the rip out and rejigging of pipework on the first day along with the tray, two days for tiling and the last day fitting with void days inbetween when they were off on other jobs waiting for stuff to dry etc.

I don't think it cost much more than £6/7k.

[craig1912]

Vanden Saab said:

That is your problem. The post above mine where the tiling was 10 days, I would tile in 21/2 days. I cannot even start to understand how that is 10 days work.
But yes, the labour will be at least as much as the fittings and if they work slowly it could be double or more

I’d agree ours took around four days for two rooms. Saying that I wouldn’t pay £18 k for that but it could be London.

[sherman]

craig1912 said:

Vanden Saab said:

That is your problem. The post above mine where the tiling was 10 days, I would tile in 21/2 days. I cannot even start to understand how that is 10 days work.
But yes, the labour will be at least as much as the fittings and if they work slowly it could be double or more

I’d agree ours took around four days for two rooms. Saying that I wouldn’t pay £18 k for that but it could be London.

Edinburgh so pricing is not dissimilar to London.
It was not a 1 man van type company. We only had to visit the showroom twice. Once to look round and once to confirm choices. Everything else was handled for us. Design, build,instalation and clean up.
There was no waiting on parts. Deliveries came as they needed them.
Im happy with the work done.
10 days tiling was slow. I would ratber slow but good than quick and needs done again in a few years.

Edited by sherman on Saturday 27th April 17:05

[markiii]

Take a look at Wickes.

Their good stuff is imho the equal in quality of all the fancy stuff and much better pricing

If you wait til October they almost always knock 20% off. also got all the tiles there

[Kwackersaki]

In-laws have just had a quote for a similar size.

Complete rip out and refit with plastic cladding to all walls and ceiling, came in at £12000. I think fixtures and fittings was around 5K and the rest labour.

[craig1912]

sherman said:

Edinburgh so pricing is not dissimilar to London.
It was not a 1 man van type company. We only had to visit the showroom twice. Once to look round and once to confirm choices. Everything else was handled for us. Design, build,instalation and clean up.
There was no waiting on parts. Deliveries came as they needed them.
Im happy with the work done.
10 days tiling was slow. I would ratber slow but good than quick and needs done again in a few years.

Edited by sherman on Saturday 27th April 17:05

Fair enough- ours was exactly the same- virtually everything delivered prior to start, two visits to show room and everything done for us. South Coast so higher prices.

[Snow and Rocks]

As with anything the price for the same job can vary wildly depending on the approach you take and how willing you are to get involved.

Walk into a glitzy showroom with manicured receptionists and get them to manage the whole job and it's easy to spend a lot of money - £18k and 10 days to tile a fairly modest bathroom is at the wild end of the spectrum though!

Arrange your own tradesmen as needed, source your own tiles and materials, and do the easy bits yourself - even the most inept DIYer can surely manage to strip out the old bathroom suite and take it down to the dump as an example. I wouldn't then be surprised if you could easily do the same job for sub £5k.

My main recommendation though if saving money is important is to avoid corporate style trades and stick to trusted local one man band setups.