Private hire of small excavator

Private hire of small excavator

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sherbertdip

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1,189 posts

126 months

Monday 18th September 2023
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Not sure if this fits here in commercial break or SP&L, but to hire an excavator without licence category for tracked vehicle is that a go-er or not?

Ivan stewart

2,792 posts

43 months

Tuesday 19th September 2023
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Only if you are going on the road or working on a commercial site , private property DIY project you will be fine ,
Depending on what your doing it might not be much more to hire someone with a digger …

Mammasaid

4,321 posts

104 months

Tuesday 19th September 2023
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But not as fun!

Yes, most of the plant hire outfits will hire you a mini excavator. It will take you a little to get used to working it, but it's easily doable.

ARHarh

4,280 posts

114 months

Tuesday 19th September 2023
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Mammasaid said:
But not as fun!

Yes, most of the plant hire outfits will hire you a mini excavator. It will take you a little to get used to working it, but it's easily doable.
I hired one a few years back, just paid and they delivered. No questions on whether I had any qualifications. Got a quick introduction on how to use it, then left to get the groundwork done. Worst bit was I had it for 2 days and rained all the time. Garden looked like the Somme when I'd finished smile

LooneyTunes

7,582 posts

165 months

Tuesday 19th September 2023
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If you do hire one, make sure you inspect it properly and understand how it needs to be returned.

Like hire cars, some places don’t care much about condition but others will charge you if it’s dirty or picks up any damage.

simon_harris

1,785 posts

41 months

Tuesday 19th September 2023
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when we last did some hard landscaping in our garden we hired an mini digger and a man to operate it, he got the job done much quicker and probably better than I would have achieved and it wasn't much more expensive (2017)

sospan

2,591 posts

229 months

Tuesday 19th September 2023
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We had a landscaper do our garden. He got a licensed operator to run the mini digger. Very fast and a better job than DIY.
Garden makeover was a full refurb/ redesign. I shied away due to time it would take me plys the people doing the various jobs were excellent. Patio was porcelain slabs and the chap did a superb job. He took 4 days (3 days solo and 1 day with labourer). The prep done by the digger driver impressed him as it made his job easier.
The whole job was a big one making DIY a no-go. Mrs sospan would have been a PIA if my slower work rate was going on. Not as expensive as we thought and less than our budget. Left some money over for spending elsewhere and I avoided a lot of hassle!

Snow and Rocks

2,432 posts

34 months

Tuesday 19th September 2023
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What are you hoping to do with the digger?

They're not difficult to use after a few hours getting to grips with things but some tasks are more difficult than others.

Levelling any significant size of area and leaving a nice flat surface is probably one of the most difficult tasks. I can happily dig away all day but the old guy I hire in for any significant digger work is on another level when it comes to grading!

Tbirdpete

45 posts

55 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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I've a lot of expertise in this area. If you're travelling/tracking it on the public highway, inc. pavements, verges etc, you need category H on a driving licence.

If it's doing work for someone else as a contractual arrangement - e.g. someone's paying you, you come under the Health and Safety at Work Act 74 and require suitable information instruction, training and supervision.

If it's purely domestic use, then it's down to you although the hire company as part of their terms and conditions must supply sufficient informaiton on the safe use of the machine - usually the operator's manual.

Hope that helps.

Hammersia

1,564 posts

22 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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Can't believe it's that difficult to get to grips with. I mastered a forklift in about 90 seconds, seriously.

Sounds fun, would definitely have a crack at it myself, so what if it takes a bit longer.

paulrockliffe

15,998 posts

234 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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If you have a Diggerland nearby you can go on a quiet day and spend as long as you like learning how to do it properly too.

Tbirdpete

45 posts

55 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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Reading some of the other comments, these machines are not toys and will and have killed their operators or those nearby. Get some training if you are unfamiliar with these or any machine types. I write safety publications for the construction sector specialising in plant and one domestic incident from memory was a nurse helping a neighbour - in Dollis Hill - with their garden by driving a small dumper. Lost control and overturned the machine. Four young girls lost their Mum.

Giantt

607 posts

43 months

Sunday 1st October 2023
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Take photos when it arrives,needs to be clean n fuelled up when picked up,but even the most simple tasks can soon go astray,why do contractors have insurance,cat scan before digging,do trial holes,etc

Jimbo.

4,039 posts

196 months

Sunday 1st October 2023
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Before sticking buckets in the ground, it’d be wise to know what services (if any) lay beneath. Much like any digging of course, however even a small machine would make a mess of a gas/water/oil/fuel line.

Snow and Rocks

2,432 posts

34 months

Sunday 1st October 2023
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Yep, we recently had a 9 tonne machine in doing some work with a pro operator helping me out and despite going over everything with a scanner and mapping things out as best we could still managed to dig through the phone line on 3 separate occasions!

Open reach and their engineers were great though, they shared our bafflement at the route of the cable and there was no mention of any charges at any point. I suspect other services might not be so helpful however.

Mammasaid

4,321 posts

104 months

essayer

9,623 posts

201 months

Sunday 1st October 2023
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Mammasaid said:
I tried that service and ended up with about 100 emails loads of which seemed to want payment. Should it be free for DIYers?

Dan_The_Man

1,087 posts

246 months

Sunday 1st October 2023
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When we were having an extension built I borrowed the builders mini digger one evening to get a tree stump out from the bottom of the garden. Piece of piss to operate until somehow it slid down and tipped into the hole I was digging and in the process the top of the bucket arm went through the garden shed. Took all night with lights rigged up in the garden to get it back upright, and as I drove it up the garden steps it broke every one. The wife went mental the next day as it looked like someone had gone on a drunken rampage with a tank over the lawn, with hindsight I should have asked the builder to do it. Ended up digging the stump out by hand.

K87

3,749 posts

106 months

Monday 2nd October 2023
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Dan_The_Man said:
When we were having an extension built I borrowed the builders mini digger one evening to get a tree stump out from the bottom of the garden. Piece of piss to operate until somehow it slid down and tipped into the hole I was digging and in the process the top of the bucket arm went through the garden shed. Took all night with lights rigged up in the garden to get it back upright, and as I drove it up the garden steps it broke every one. The wife went mental the next day as it looked like someone had gone on a drunken rampage with a tank over the lawn, with hindsight I should have asked the builder to do it. Ended up digging the stump out by hand.
That's the sort of mess that I would get into, my enthusiasm overwhelms any limited ability.

Are you an Aries too?

skeeterm5

3,709 posts

195 months

Monday 2nd October 2023
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I find digging out is ok but getting stuff back neat and level is something of a black art.

If you have some spare space to practice on that is useful.

Having said that I really enjoy working on a digger.