Ask a plumber/heating ‘engineer’ anything

Ask a plumber/heating ‘engineer’ anything

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1TWS

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40 posts

110 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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Saw the electrician one and I’m abit bored today so go ahead, other plumbers join in

CharlesdeGaulle

26,882 posts

187 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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I have to top up the water in my heating system from time to time, so where has the water gone? No sign of any leaks anywhere.

1TWS

Original Poster:

40 posts

110 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
I have to top up the water in my heating system from time to time, so where has the water gone? No sign of any leaks anywhere.
How often ? And what boiler is it?
It could be a faulty/undersized expansion vessel causing the pressure to rise and the pressure relief valve opening.
The boiler heat exchanger leaking and the water running down the condense.
A small leak which evaporates away and you not seeing it, look for staining one pipes/joints too.
Radiator valves are most common for leaks causing pressure loss, check trv valve bodies after taking the head off, Drayton trv4 valves leak a lot !
. Water doesn’t compress much, so depending on the size on the system to go from 0.1 bar to 1 bar doesn’t actually take much extra water.

Edited by 1TWS on Saturday 24th September 15:55

CharlesdeGaulle

26,882 posts

187 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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Thanks for the answer. I do it every couple of months I guess. I'll go and have a look for staining. It'll be needed very soon, it's beginning to get chilly over here.

Aprisa

1,829 posts

265 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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We have a non vented hot water system and gas fired central heating.
Recently despite both water and heating being set to Off in Nest the boiler fires up and the radiators get hot for a short period?
The times seem to be random.
Why would it be doing that?

cavey76

422 posts

153 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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I have a 3k sq ft Victorian detached, 4 public rooms, a kitchen, 6 bedroom with a shower off the gas. We have a 35kw Combi today.

A couple of mates have similar sized houses, one is a builder and swears by the fact I am stretching a combi too much. He has just completely refitted his gaff and has went for what, I think, is a system boiler, tank looks about 5ft tall? The other mate has something similar which is supported by a solar system.

My combi is coming to end of life, are my mates wallopers(likely) or for a big ass old Victorian with 7 people in it should I look elsewhere for heating tech?

cavey76

422 posts

153 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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Oh and to continue with the non serious theme of these threads:

Have you ever serviced any randy/lonely housewives?

scoey1001

779 posts

88 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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How many pairs of knickers have you sniffed?

Monkeylegend

27,191 posts

238 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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Do you know the secret masonic handshake and if so can you tell us what it is?

Nickbrapp

5,277 posts

137 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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What does condensating mean on my boiler and why does that make it more efficient

What pressure should my boiler be at? Logic 35, 3 bed new build

g7jtk

1,776 posts

161 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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Why is it that people think Plumbers get payed a lot?

db10

281 posts

270 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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ive removed 2 radiators from our combi boiler system and have no heat to any of the radiators and when i try and bleed the upstairs rads i get no air and no water......... boiler pressure is 2.5 bar. do you reckon its an airlock and if so whats the best way of removing it given bleeding the rads is having no effect?

thanks

g7jtk

1,776 posts

161 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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db10 said:
ive removed 2 radiators from our combi boiler system and have no heat to any of the radiators and when i try and bleed the upstairs rads i get no air and no water......... boiler pressure is 2.5 bar. do you reckon its an airlock and if so whats the best way of removing it given bleeding the rads is having no effect?

thanks
Have you opened the radiator valves?

LocoBlade

7,651 posts

263 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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Nickbrapp said:
What does condensating mean on my boiler and why does that make it more efficient

What pressure should my boiler be at? Logic 35, 3 bed new build
Not a plumber but I'll chip in on this one
A link explaining condensing boiler efficiency
https://www.heatgeek.com/condensing-boilers-effici...
TLDR the boiler is able to recover heat from condensing water vapour in the exhaust gases, but that only happens when running below a certain flow/return temperature.

Most system/combi boilers need to be pressurised to about 1 - 1.5 bar when cold

db10

281 posts

270 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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g7jtk said:
Have you opened the radiator valves?
Yes they were never closed. The system got drained completely when the rads were removed (by accident as the water pissed into the downstairs basement flat 😂)

jason61c

5,978 posts

181 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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what's an engineer compared to a 'fitter' When it comes to plumbing?

sociopath

3,433 posts

73 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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Why do plumbers have 13 grannies, permanently sick children, and unreliable vans that get broken into and break down all at the same time, so they can't manage to make appointments.

Oh and why is the supplier always out of stock of that generic item, and the replacement can only be picked up from a different supplier 50 miles away in a week?

shambolic

2,146 posts

174 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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Aprisa said:
We have a non vented hot water system and gas fired central heating.
Recently despite both water and heating being set to Off in Nest the boiler fires up and the radiators get hot for a short period?
The times seem to be random.
Why would it be doing that?
Zone valve end switches stuck on?

shambolic

2,146 posts

174 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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Nickbrapp said:
What does condensating mean on my boiler and why does that make it more efficient

What pressure should my boiler be at? Logic 35, 3 bed new build
Google it ffs but basically it uses the latent heat of condensation at 50-55 degrees to reheat the water in the heat exchanger. That’s why there is a drain pipe (condense) to remove the excess water.
Pressure should be 1 bar cold.

shambolic

2,146 posts

174 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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jason61c said:
what's an engineer compared to a 'fitter' When it comes to plumbing?
No heating engineer or a plumber is an actual engineer unless they have a degree in engineering tbh.
I have mechanical engineering as I did it separate but I have a City and guilds in gas st about 33yrs ago then all the other st. But I never call myself a gas engineer.
I have an engineering degree but not in gas as that was my own thing.
Does that make sense?
I class myself as a boiler technician working for a manufacturer carrying out warranty repairs