What are your energy bills like?

What are your energy bills like?

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UTH

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10,244 posts

190 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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Since moving from my well insulated 2 bed ground floor flat in Fulham to a poorly insulated 4 bed detached house in Surrey, my bills have soared.
Latest bill seems to be around £235 for the last month. We've had the heating running pretty much constantly, and then we've been using electric fan heaters a fair bit as we ripped out the ground floor radiators as part of the renovation.

I'm hoping that once the underfloor heating is in and I've looked at some insulation we can get the bills down a bit.....or is £235 a month fairly standard and I just have to accept that's what it costs in a bigger house?

I assumed the use of the fan heaters will have bumped the cost up a bit, and with under floor we won't be running the boiler almost 24 hours a day like we were trying to keep it warm with the radiators.....

*Badger*

540 posts

188 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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4 Bed Detached in Lancashire.

Just the two of us but the heating is on constantly at 20 from 06:30-22:00 everyday.

Electric - 3,082 kWh per year.
Gas - 15,782 kWh per year.

I pay £96/Month.

UTH

Original Poster:

10,244 posts

190 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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*Badger* said:
4 Bed Detached in Lancashire.

Just the two of us but the heating is on constantly at 20 from 06:30-22:00 everyday.

Electric - 3,082 kWh per year.
Gas - 15,782 kWh per year.

I pay £96/Month.
Blimey, so I'm certainly paying a lot then.
I'm assuming with your heating on all the time that doesn't necessarily mean the boiler is on? I think the boiler was pretty much running constantly trying to keep our place warm.

Aunty Pasty

780 posts

50 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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Modest 3 bed detached in Surrey Economy 7 About £120 a month for Gas + electricity.

Sheets Tabuer

20,032 posts

227 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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3 Bed, about £70 a month but it is south facing and gets insanely hot even in winter.

Mr Obertshaw

2,180 posts

242 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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UTH said:
Since moving from my well insulated 2 bed ground floor flat in Fulham to a poorly insulated 4 bed detached house in Surrey, my bills have soared.
Latest bill seems to be around £235 for the last month. We've had the heating running pretty much constantly, and then we've been using electric fan heaters a fair bit as we ripped out the ground floor radiators as part of the renovation.

I'm hoping that once the underfloor heating is in and I've looked at some insulation we can get the bills down a bit.....or is £235 a month fairly standard and I just have to accept that's what it costs in a bigger house?

I assumed the use of the fan heaters will have bumped the cost up a bit, and with under floor we won't be running the boiler almost 24 hours a day like we were trying to keep it warm with the radiators.....
We have a large 1920s 4 bed detached with no cavity wall insulation near the sea. We pay about the same as you over winter. We fot rid of our smart meter as the live cost reading was depressing!

SiH

1,842 posts

259 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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UTH said:
Since moving from my well insulated 2 bed ground floor flat in Fulham to a poorly insulated 4 bed detached house in Surrey, my bills have soared.
Latest bill seems to be around £235 for the last month. We've had the heating running pretty much constantly, and then we've been using electric fan heaters a fair bit as we ripped out the ground floor radiators as part of the renovation.

I'm hoping that once the underfloor heating is in and I've looked at some insulation we can get the bills down a bit.....or is £235 a month fairly standard and I just have to accept that's what it costs in a bigger house?

I assumed the use of the fan heaters will have bumped the cost up a bit, and with under floor we won't be running the boiler almost 24 hours a day like we were trying to keep it warm with the radiators.....
We're around £380 a month for gas and electricity. That's for a 6-bed with a pool heated by our domestic boiler so you're sort of in the same ballpark on a cost-per-room basis. I suspect that you might be able to reduce your bills if you cut down your use of fan-heaters as I've always seen them as expensive ways of heating a house. Are you going to put the radiators back in or move to something else like underfloor heating across the ground floor?

UTH

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10,244 posts

190 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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SiH said:
We're around £380 a month for gas and electricity. That's for a 6-bed with a pool heated by our domestic boiler so you're sort of in the same ballpark on a cost-per-room basis. I suspect that you might be able to reduce your bills if you cut down your use of fan-heaters as I've always seen them as expensive ways of heating a house. Are you going to put the radiators back in or move to something else like underfloor heating across the ground floor?
Yeah fan heaters are a killer, that was just for a few weeks whilst we still lived there with no radiators downstairs. We've moved out now for the work to be done and the entire ground floor will have underfloor heating, so although that's obviously a big cost, I hope the monthly running costs will drop.

Crumpet

4,233 posts

192 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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Pushing £300 a month now on 3000sq ft of 200 year old house. £40 of that is water. Wife working from home through the winter isn’t helping!

LocoBlade

7,651 posts

268 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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UTH said:
Since moving from my well insulated 2 bed ground floor flat in Fulham to a poorly insulated 4 bed detached house in Surrey, my bills have soared.
Latest bill seems to be around £235 for the last month. We've had the heating running pretty much constantly, and then we've been using electric fan heaters a fair bit as we ripped out the ground floor radiators as part of the renovation.

I'm hoping that once the underfloor heating is in and I've looked at some insulation we can get the bills down a bit.....or is £235 a month fairly standard and I just have to accept that's what it costs in a bigger house?

I assumed the use of the fan heaters will have bumped the cost up a bit, and with under floor we won't be running the boiler almost 24 hours a day like we were trying to keep it warm with the radiators.....
Ours have been similar for the first 3 months of moving in, and similar use case including lots of electric heating to start with as the boiler was condemned, no heating in half the ground floor as the underfloor for the kitchen diner can't go in yet, and gas heating on almost contantly since the boiler was replaced due to rubbish old doors/windows and a section of wall only temporarilty bricked up single cavity after the steels went in until the bifold arrives. Once we get the new windows etc in and the holes in the walls properly bricked up I expect that to drop substantilly.

Don't forget winter will always be far more expensive than summer due to heating and less light, normally the monthly payment is an average of your annual use so even if you carried on as you are you'd probably average out nearer £150/month than £235

UTH

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10,244 posts

190 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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LocoBlade said:
Ours have been similar for the first 3 months of moving in, and similar use case including lots of electric heating to start with as the boiler was condemned, no heating in half the ground floor as the underfloor for the kitchen diner can't go in yet, and gas heating on almost contantly since the boiler was replaced due to rubbish old doors/windows and a section of wall only temporarilty bricked up single cavity after the steels went in until the bifold arrives. Once we get the new windows etc in and the holes in the walls properly bricked up I expect that to drop substantilly.

Don't forget winter will always be far more expensive than summer due to heating and less light, normally the monthly payment is an average of your annual use so even if you carried on as you are you'd probably average out nearer £150/month than £235
Good to know.
I think I've been living rather naively, I think I was under the impression that you submit your readings each month then they take the correct amount out of your bank. I didn't actually realise it was just a set direct debit amount, so I was rather shocked that my £90 a month wasn't nearly enough and suddenly got a massive bill when I switched providers. You learn something new every day etc!

berlintaxi

8,535 posts

185 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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8 bed victorian detached on Lancashire coast, air source heat pumps for UFH, hot water and remaining central heating, gas and electric combined £90/month.

Edited by berlintaxi on Friday 12th March 18:30

berlintaxi

8,535 posts

185 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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8 bed victorian detached on Lancashire coast, air source heat pumps for UFH, hot water and remaining central heating, gas and electric combined £90/month.

Edited by berlintaxi on Friday 12th March 18:30

Uncle John

4,646 posts

203 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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That’s about right. I’m in a 60’s detached house in Surrey. Old fashioned boiler, lots of windows lots of big rads, underfloor heating in the main bathroom as well as gas. It doesn’t help that we don’t really get the sun. Gets hammered in the winter, getting on for 3k a year even with the cheapest deal I can find.

Was a shock when moving from our little semi.

UTH

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10,244 posts

190 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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Uncle John said:
That’s about right. I’m in a 60’s detached house in Surrey. Old fashioned boiler, lots of windows lots of big rads, underfloor heating in the main bathroom as well as gas. It doesn’t help that we don’t really get the sun. Gets hammered in the winter, getting on for 3k a year even with the cheapest deal I can find.

Was a shock when moving from our little semi.
What's your insulation like? We have zero in floor/ceiling between floors, haven't checked in the roof yet though.

joshleb

1,548 posts

156 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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We moved in November to our 3 bed terrace in Streatham.

Bills so far was around £3 a day when temperature, to £6 when really cold.

Quite a lot of that is due to UFH heating in the kitchen and my missus gets cold easily and her office is in the north facing bedroom with no curtains, so chills down quickly.

Come spring summer I imagine we'll be circa £60 a month.

We do need change providers, we're just on the standard sign up tariff currently with Eon.

Uncle John

4,646 posts

203 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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Chalet style so the eaves are staple-gunned with insulation, loft is standard loft insulation.

Upstairs gets insanely hot in the summer so I’m assuming it does it’s job.

Cavity walls, no idea what’s in them though.

It’s quite open plan, so lots of big space & as I said lots of windows. I do have an old skool boiler, does the trick but not up to modern standards. Was quoted 7k & lots of structural work to modernise, so I take the bills on the chin.

As I said when we first moved in I was querying the bills, I could see that the meters had just been replaced six months before we moved in, I was certain they were reading incorrectly. They weren’t.


UTH

Original Poster:

10,244 posts

190 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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Uncle John said:
Chalet style so the eaves are staple-gunned with insulation, loft is standard loft insulation.

Upstairs gets insanely hot in the summer so I’m assuming it does it’s job.

Cavity walls, no idea what’s in them though.

It’s quite open plan, so lots of big space & as I said lots of windows. I do have an old skool boiler, does the trick but not up to modern standards. Was quoted 7k & lots of structural work to modernise, so I take the bills on the chin.

As I said when we first moved in I was querying the bills, I could see that the meters had just been replaced six months before we moved in, I was certain they were reading incorrectly. They weren’t.
Hmmmm, maybe I shouldn't get too excited about my bills dropping much then.

mikey_b

2,248 posts

57 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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5 bed semi-detached here, including a loft conversion. We pay £140 a month for gas and electric. We’re pretty well insulated with full cavity wall, new windows, decent loft insulation (what’s left of it, after a big bedroom and en-suite were built). Four of us here inc two kids so lots of washing, tumble drying, and recent WFH so heating has been on more often etc.

I think last month we burned through about £230 of energy, summer is much less obviously.

LocoBlade

7,651 posts

268 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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Uncle John said:
Chalet style so the eaves are staple-gunned with insulation, loft is standard loft insulation.

Upstairs gets insanely hot in the summer so I’m assuming it does it’s job.
Good insulation should help stop it getting hot in summer just as well as it stops it getting cold in winter.