Is anyone moving now?
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The Don of Croy said:
We have a surveyor booked for tomorrow - our purchaser has already chipped us on price (gulp) and we've already stated we don't care what horrors they find, the price is the price.
Likewise our survey on the place we want returned a huge list of 'red' marks, not surprising on a Victorian farmhouse.
My latest worry is removal costs - moving 200 miles north, 4 men x 3 days = £8000 plus VAT. WTAF? Top price >£10k.
However, my wife insists (rightly) I'm not to do it. The mind is willing, but the flesh recently effed it's elbow using a lightweight battery strimmer FFS.
The stress levels are rising...
How much would it cost you to get rid of some of your big and bulky possessions that aren’t special and buy again? (Beds/wardrobes/tables/garden furniture/garden tools/kitchenware)Likewise our survey on the place we want returned a huge list of 'red' marks, not surprising on a Victorian farmhouse.
My latest worry is removal costs - moving 200 miles north, 4 men x 3 days = £8000 plus VAT. WTAF? Top price >£10k.
However, my wife insists (rightly) I'm not to do it. The mind is willing, but the flesh recently effed it's elbow using a lightweight battery strimmer FFS.
The stress levels are rising...
8k for removals seems punchy to me. How cheap do you want it and do you have lots of valuable stuff?
If you want it cheap, check out easy storage.
They are really only for local moves however if you are outside their 10mile usual service radius they charge 6 quid a mile inc vat for the excess miles
In your case it could add up to a tidy saving however it is not a removal service as such. So youd need to empty your house, let them take it to their storage site, then immediately book the delivery to the new address.
I havent worked out what it would cost you but itll be a fraction of 8k even with the extra charges theyll whallop you for
If you want it cheap, check out easy storage.
They are really only for local moves however if you are outside their 10mile usual service radius they charge 6 quid a mile inc vat for the excess miles
In your case it could add up to a tidy saving however it is not a removal service as such. So youd need to empty your house, let them take it to their storage site, then immediately book the delivery to the new address.
I havent worked out what it would cost you but itll be a fraction of 8k even with the extra charges theyll whallop you for
Yes, would also recommend Easy storage. Last time I've used them as well, just a few days off from work, pack everything and etc.. we also did it without chain so the house was already sold, the furniture was inside easy storage for a month or so before moving into the new place.. it was literally half price than a usual local movers.
Agree with the comments made regarding mover/packers: Use well established/reliable firm and don't skimp on insurance (also be detailed on insurance submission).
From recent experience: Moved 150miles (North) in Nov23 - 6bed house with lots of outbuilding stuff I could not bear to leave behind. Nothing in the move was excessively valuable or difficult to move. ~7.5k for the experience, including 30day storage. Used a franchisee of a national removals firm. Nightmare from start to finish - lack of vans, mates from pub who were lovely but clearly not moving professionals, overrun in time, late delivery. Resulted in 5figure insurance payout. National firm were sympathetic but felt unable to help.
With hindsight, as mentioned by others, given the overall stress of buying/selling, you'd simply want this part to go smoothly, so worth putting it with someone you can trust for peace of mind, perhaps more-so for a larger volume/distance move. In my view, the cost will soon be forgotten, unlike the aftermath of an unhappy experience/spouse.
From recent experience: Moved 150miles (North) in Nov23 - 6bed house with lots of outbuilding stuff I could not bear to leave behind. Nothing in the move was excessively valuable or difficult to move. ~7.5k for the experience, including 30day storage. Used a franchisee of a national removals firm. Nightmare from start to finish - lack of vans, mates from pub who were lovely but clearly not moving professionals, overrun in time, late delivery. Resulted in 5figure insurance payout. National firm were sympathetic but felt unable to help.
With hindsight, as mentioned by others, given the overall stress of buying/selling, you'd simply want this part to go smoothly, so worth putting it with someone you can trust for peace of mind, perhaps more-so for a larger volume/distance move. In my view, the cost will soon be forgotten, unlike the aftermath of an unhappy experience/spouse.
Thanks for the input - we're still considering options. Probably go for the large local firm who made the best impression on m'Wifey. The £10k quote could have been better done as 'FRO' but maybe they're too polite.
Today we have the purchaser's surveyor lifting manhole covers, flying a drone, poking all the walls, jumping up and down upstairs, in order to construct reasons to reduce the offer. Again.
Joy.
Today we have the purchaser's surveyor lifting manhole covers, flying a drone, poking all the walls, jumping up and down upstairs, in order to construct reasons to reduce the offer. Again.
Joy.
Buyer pulled out the week of exchange because they were finding it overwhelming and stressful. 
What’s the best thing to do now, stick with the current estate agent and say to put it back up, will that mean it’s far down the pecking order on Rightmove and look like it’s been up for 3 months?
Or do I move to a new agent and do a brand new listing, so it appears fresh on RM?
What’s the best thing to do now, stick with the current estate agent and say to put it back up, will that mean it’s far down the pecking order on Rightmove and look like it’s been up for 3 months?
Or do I move to a new agent and do a brand new listing, so it appears fresh on RM?
The Don of Croy said:
Thanks for the input - we're still considering options. Probably go for the large local firm who made the best impression on m'Wifey. The £10k quote could have been better done as 'FRO' but maybe they're too polite.
Today we have the purchaser's surveyor lifting manhole covers, flying a drone, poking all the walls, jumping up and down upstairs, in order to construct reasons to reduce the offer. Again.
Joy.
Next time I move I'm seriously considering buying some 2x4m flat-pack containers, packing them all up myself with a bit of hired help, then paying simple haulage to move them to the destination (they can be lifted when full with lifting chains and a simple hiab). Obviously this only works if you have enough space, but the flat-pack containers retain 80-90% of their value on the used market, can be stored flat, etc, and may turn out to be useful as storage at the other end.Today we have the purchaser's surveyor lifting manhole covers, flying a drone, poking all the walls, jumping up and down upstairs, in order to construct reasons to reduce the offer. Again.
Joy.
Even renting your own 7.5 tonne tail-lift truck can be very economical (assuming you're old enough for the licence rights) - that quickly pays for itself.
Worth bearing in mind those two containers have around 1350 cubic feet of space.
That's less than an average home move.
If you're not an experienced packer you'll do well to utilise 75% of this. Which would be circa 1000cubic feet. That'd be a small move by moving company standards.
Judging by the OP (that started this discussion on move costs), he has around 2200-2600 cubic feet.
But, there much more than just raw volume that goes into planning a home move.
Hopefully that's an insight.
That's less than an average home move.
If you're not an experienced packer you'll do well to utilise 75% of this. Which would be circa 1000cubic feet. That'd be a small move by moving company standards.
Judging by the OP (that started this discussion on move costs), he has around 2200-2600 cubic feet.
But, there much more than just raw volume that goes into planning a home move.
Hopefully that's an insight.
Edited by LuckyThirteen on Tuesday 18th June 16:44
I w only ever self moved, the last to a decent sized 4 bed double garage. I hired a tail lift. It's economical alright but you simply can't fit all the stuff you need to move one go. I actually moved a lot of stuff by car to other houses first and the big stuff went last in the tail lift.
This will be move #6. First move (1985) used company box trailer and car.
Did consider 2 x 20' containers which can be had for <£4000 all in, including transport, but who wants to manhandle a piano?
Anyhow, yesterday the surveyor said 'no problem' and our purchaser sent over a contract for signing. Progress!
- 2 and #3 Ryder Truck self drive with tail ramp.
- 4 mini-pantechnicon on 7.5 tonne licence from local company - not quite big enough but only 5 miles up the road (lots of car journeys too).
- 5 professional removal firm. Bliss.
Did consider 2 x 20' containers which can be had for <£4000 all in, including transport, but who wants to manhandle a piano?
Anyhow, yesterday the surveyor said 'no problem' and our purchaser sent over a contract for signing. Progress!
The Don of Croy said:
This will be move #6. First move (1985) used company box trailer and car.
Did consider 2 x 20' containers which can be had for <£4000 all in, including transport, but who wants to manhandle a piano?
Anyhow, yesterday the surveyor said 'no problem' and our purchaser sent over a contract for signing. Progress!
All very sensible. I can lend you a piano dolly if you change your mind; they’re really easy to move once you have the knack - 2 and #3 Ryder Truck self drive with tail ramp.
- 4 mini-pantechnicon on 7.5 tonne licence from local company - not quite big enough but only 5 miles up the road (lots of car journeys too).
- 5 professional removal firm. Bliss.
Did consider 2 x 20' containers which can be had for <£4000 all in, including transport, but who wants to manhandle a piano?
Anyhow, yesterday the surveyor said 'no problem' and our purchaser sent over a contract for signing. Progress!
The Don of Croy said:
This will be move #6. First move (1985) used company box trailer and car.
Did consider 2 x 20' containers which can be had for <£4000 all in, including transport, but who wants to manhandle a piano?
Anyhow, yesterday the surveyor said 'no problem' and our purchaser sent over a contract for signing. Progress!
and, judging by the quote you've had 2x20ft containers would not be enough- 2 and #3 Ryder Truck self drive with tail ramp.
- 4 mini-pantechnicon on 7.5 tonne licence from local company - not quite big enough but only 5 miles up the road (lots of car journeys too).
- 5 professional removal firm. Bliss.
Did consider 2 x 20' containers which can be had for <£4000 all in, including transport, but who wants to manhandle a piano?
Anyhow, yesterday the surveyor said 'no problem' and our purchaser sent over a contract for signing. Progress!
I must have been prompted to book a survey in the past but this time it hasn’t happened.
My mortgage application submitted, bank valuation visit booked - should I be booking my survey now or later? Can’t believe I’ve never really thought about this before - it must have been suggested by a broker/bank in previous purchases…
My mortgage application submitted, bank valuation visit booked - should I be booking my survey now or later? Can’t believe I’ve never really thought about this before - it must have been suggested by a broker/bank in previous purchases…
LuckyThirteen said:
If you are having one, do it just as soon as you have an offer for the mortgage
I would do it after the bank valuation survey, even though it is a pretty cursory effort (above a certain LTV they will go beyond a desktop valuation and actually visit the house) they may spot a show stopper before you have wasted money on a more detailed effortThe Don of Croy said:
We have a surveyor booked for tomorrow - our purchaser has already chipped us on price (gulp) and we've already stated we don't care what horrors they find, the price is the price.
Likewise our survey on the place we want returned a huge list of 'red' marks, not surprising on a Victorian farmhouse.
My latest worry is removal costs - moving 200 miles north, 4 men x 3 days = £8000 plus VAT. WTAF? Top price >£10k.
However, my wife insists (rightly) I'm not to do it. The mind is willing, but the flesh recently effed it's elbow using a lightweight battery strimmer FFS.
The stress levels are rising...
We did just that nearly six years ago. Seven men to load up, 200 mile drive, two men two days to unload. Cost us £8000 so your figures are not too bad....Likewise our survey on the place we want returned a huge list of 'red' marks, not surprising on a Victorian farmhouse.
My latest worry is removal costs - moving 200 miles north, 4 men x 3 days = £8000 plus VAT. WTAF? Top price >£10k.
However, my wife insists (rightly) I'm not to do it. The mind is willing, but the flesh recently effed it's elbow using a lightweight battery strimmer FFS.
The stress levels are rising...
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