Octopus energy company. Anyone use 'em?
Discussion
Trustmeimadoctor said:
Yes if the pence per kw is less or the same for electric than if is for gas it it would be cheaper. infact if the rate is even slightly more for electric than gas it will still be cheaper as gas isn't as efficient as electricity.
But if move your gas to a different tariff too
You need to measure how many kWs of gas you need to heat the water from cold to hot, and how many kWs of electricity you use to heat from cold to hot.But if move your gas to a different tariff too
It won't be the same number of kWs, as one method will be more efficient than the other.
P40L VX said:
For users who are on standard go and the regular gas’s tariff. Is it a simple calculation on working out what’s the cheaper approach to heating water?? Option 1 - heating the water via a smart immersion during the new 00:30-05:30 window or option 2 - use the gas boiler to heat?
Standard gas tariff (although why you are on that and not Tracker is your decision) is roughly 6p/kWh and electricity on Go is 9p/kWh overnight. Unless your gas boiler is less than 66% efficient (it won't be) then gas is cheaper,
And if you were on Tracker where the price has been 4.5p for ages then the boiler would need to be less than 50% efficient.
Realistically electricity would need to be less than 5p/kWh for it to make it cheaper, and it is occasionally on Agile but otherwise it isn't.
pingu393 said:
Trustmeimadoctor said:
Yes if the pence per kw is less or the same for electric than if is for gas it it would be cheaper. infact if the rate is even slightly more for electric than gas it will still be cheaper as gas isn't as efficient as electricity.
But if move your gas to a different tariff too
You need to measure how many kWs of gas you need to heat the water from cold to hot, and how many kWs of electricity you use to heat from cold to hot.But if move your gas to a different tariff too
It won't be the same number of kWs, as one method will be more efficient than the other.
When I turned off the gas boiler and drained the system last year I heated water by Electricity - it came out at a similar cost as I have a vertical element in the tank and it's not very long so only heats half the volume of water compared to the boiler fed coil which is much lower in the tank and heats a lot more volume.
SpidersWeb said:
Standard gas tariff (although why you are on that and not Tracker is your decision) is roughly 6p/kWh and electricity on Go is 9p/kWh overnight.
Unless your gas boiler is less than 66% efficient (it won't be) then gas is cheaper,
And if you were on Tracker where the price has been 4.5p for ages then the boiler would need to be less than 50% efficient.
Realistically electricity would need to be less than 5p/kWh for it to make it cheaper, and it is occasionally on Agile but otherwise it isn't.
Excellent, thanks for the view. I wont invest in a smart element for the water tank then and switch to the tracker tariff for the gas. Unless your gas boiler is less than 66% efficient (it won't be) then gas is cheaper,
And if you were on Tracker where the price has been 4.5p for ages then the boiler would need to be less than 50% efficient.
Realistically electricity would need to be less than 5p/kWh for it to make it cheaper, and it is occasionally on Agile but otherwise it isn't.
Edited by P40L VX on Saturday 29th June 10:11
B'stard Child said:
pingu393 said:
Trustmeimadoctor said:
Yes if the pence per kw is less or the same for electric than if is for gas it it would be cheaper. infact if the rate is even slightly more for electric than gas it will still be cheaper as gas isn't as efficient as electricity.
But if move your gas to a different tariff too
You need to measure how many kWs of gas you need to heat the water from cold to hot, and how many kWs of electricity you use to heat from cold to hot.But if move your gas to a different tariff too
It won't be the same number of kWs, as one method will be more efficient than the other.
When I turned off the gas boiler and drained the system last year I heated water by Electricity - it came out at a similar cost as I have a vertical element in the tank and it's not very long so only heats half the volume of water compared to the boiler fed coil which is much lower in the tank and heats a lot more volume.
We got rid of the tank when the gas boiler was installed. I wish we still had it, as I'd use excess solar to heat the water.
pingu393 said:
KTF said:
Cheaper to export the solar at 15p and use the gas to heat the water at 4.xp
I'm on Tracker, not Agile.My immersion heater only heats half the tank which makes it pointless to use. An eddi or similar definitely isn’t worth it.
Is gas tracker definitely worth it?
Moved house recently and the electricity is on agile, but gas still on the regular variable tariff.
Looks like generally it’s cheaper than variable, but could there be a sting come winter? Have moved from a flat that required the heating on for about 10 days a year, to a house that seems like it may be quite cold in winter so slightly apprehensive as not had a winter here before.
Moved house recently and the electricity is on agile, but gas still on the regular variable tariff.
Looks like generally it’s cheaper than variable, but could there be a sting come winter? Have moved from a flat that required the heating on for about 10 days a year, to a house that seems like it may be quite cold in winter so slightly apprehensive as not had a winter here before.
Gassing Station | Homes, Gardens and DIY | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff