How do I move this rock?

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TGCOTF-dewey

5,474 posts

57 months

Wednesday 5th June
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I sisyphus shall move your rock!

might take me while though

PositronicRay

27,187 posts

185 months

Wednesday 5th June
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Anywhere near Atherstone?



Fastpedeller

3,916 posts

148 months

Wednesday 5th June
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Panamax said:
Without doubt the answer here is leverage. Get some stout timbers about 8 ft long and a couple of people will have that moved in pretty short order.
Or a ladder.

The Three D Mucketeer

5,987 posts

229 months

Wednesday 5th June
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Wouldn't it simpler to leave the rock where it is and move house ? smile

pneumothorax

1,362 posts

233 months

Wednesday 5th June
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Rusty Old-Banger said:
The local 4x4 response team are standing by. Roger dildo, over and out.
sorry, we need to take this seriously, the op might be, at this moment, perched atop a home made trebuchet fine tuning it's actions.

Sadly, I could easily see this ending up with an enquiry and some of the advice on this thread has, to be frank been at best what I would consider cavalier, and at it's worst reckless.



768

13,995 posts

98 months

Wednesday 5th June
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rossyl said:
This rock, we had 4 builders, with straps around the bar, attempting to lift it and they could barely get it off the ground.
Try 8 builders.

Fastpedeller

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148 months

Wednesday 5th June
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This is how to do it......
https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo...

Put one end of ladder on the raised (target) destination - It may need a sheet of thick ply under to prevent it going 'underground.
Gauge how much rope will be needed to allow the rock to clear the wall and be a little above the raised ground when the ladder is nearly vertical. Tie rope(s) around rock and attach to (maybe) the third rung from foot of ladder. Two people lift end of ladder , once it is upright, rock will dangle above target area and can be lowered into position and ropes removed, or a third person can carefully cut rope and rock will fall into place. It's just a case of leverage (as shown in video) but will take some planning and will work if the ladder is long enough and doesn't bend.

pneumothorax

1,362 posts

233 months

Wednesday 5th June
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768 said:
Try 8 builders.
or a jack hammer

wildoliver

8,862 posts

218 months

Wednesday 5th June
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pneumothorax said:
sorry, we need to take this seriously, the op might be, at this moment, perched atop a home made trebuchet fine tuning it's actions.

Sadly, I could easily see this ending up with an enquiry and some of the advice on this thread has, to be frank been at best what I would consider cavalier, and at it's worst reckless.
Trebuchet was going to be my answer before I gave the sensible one, but my main issue was either having to move the rock circa 500m backwards first to land it in the right location which I felt made life harder, or fire it 497m over target then move it 3m further before firing it back. As I don't know if there is another wall between 497m and 500m away and couldn't be bothered to check the trebuchet seemed a bad idea.

DoubleSix

11,753 posts

178 months

Wednesday 5th June
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Same way it got there.

Byker28i

62,022 posts

219 months

Wednesday 5th June
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Fastpedeller said:
This is how to do it......
https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo...

Put one end of ladder on the raised (target) destination - It may need a sheet of thick ply under to prevent it going 'underground.
Gauge how much rope will be needed to allow the rock to clear the wall and be a little above the raised ground when the ladder is nearly vertical. Tie rope(s) around rock and attach to (maybe) the third rung from foot of ladder. Two people lift end of ladder , once it is upright, rock will dangle above target area and can be lowered into position and ropes removed, or a third person can carefully cut rope and rock will fall into place. It's just a case of leverage (as shown in video) but will take some planning and will work if the ladder is long enough and doesn't bend.
I did this some years ago with a friend/friends.

You do it in stages, we used sleepers we borrowed from a farmer. Lift a little using a lever with appropriate fulcrum, sleepers under to raise it slightly, rest. Rinse and repeat. When you've raised it up to the level of the upper garden it should drag/lift/roll into position.

The Ladder idea is good, provided it will take the weight

FMOB

1,174 posts

14 months

Wednesday 5th June
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Fastpedeller said:
This is how to do it......
https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo...

Put one end of ladder on the raised (target) destination - It may need a sheet of thick ply under to prevent it going 'underground.
Gauge how much rope will be needed to allow the rock to clear the wall and be a little above the raised ground when the ladder is nearly vertical. Tie rope(s) around rock and attach to (maybe) the third rung from foot of ladder. Two people lift end of ladder , once it is upright, rock will dangle above target area and can be lowered into position and ropes removed, or a third person can carefully cut rope and rock will fall into place. It's just a case of leverage (as shown in video) but will take some planning and will work if the ladder is long enough and doesn't bend.
I think you are only person who has used the bing search engine..

No ideas for a name

2,302 posts

88 months

Wednesday 5th June
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Petrus1983 said:
Ask these guys?

Thy used a big crane when it was built in the 50's smile

Fastpedeller

3,916 posts

148 months

Wednesday 5th June
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FMOB said:
Fastpedeller said:
This is how to do it......
https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo...

Put one end of ladder on the raised (target) destination - It may need a sheet of thick ply under to prevent it going 'underground.
Gauge how much rope will be needed to allow the rock to clear the wall and be a little above the raised ground when the ladder is nearly vertical. Tie rope(s) around rock and attach to (maybe) the third rung from foot of ladder. Two people lift end of ladder , once it is upright, rock will dangle above target area and can be lowered into position and ropes removed, or a third person can carefully cut rope and rock will fall into place. It's just a case of leverage (as shown in video) but will take some planning and will work if the ladder is long enough and doesn't bend.
I think you are only person who has used the bing search engine..
biggrin

rossyl

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1,135 posts

169 months

Wednesday 5th June
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speedking31 said:
Those quoting £60/day for beam hire, that is just for the trolley that runs along the top. The frame is >£300/day, plus you need a block and tackle as well. The A-frame won't actually be able to move the rock to the position the OP wants. An expensive mistaka to maka.
What?? This was my intended solution.


Promised Land

4,791 posts

211 months

Wednesday 5th June
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PositronicRay said:
Anywhere near Atherstone?


Does that still go on on shrove Tuesday or Ash Wednesday, I forget which it is.

Worked with a few lads from the town and they had the day off to take part, quite a tactical thing apparently and they also said it’s a good time to chin someone you don’t like/ had a square up with in the past etc while fighting for the ball or tag things on it.

RustyMX5

7,888 posts

219 months

Wednesday 5th June
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Land anchor and at least an 8:1 pulley system

BlackZeD

783 posts

210 months

Wednesday 5th June
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Give this fella a ring, if he can't shift it no one can.


netherfield

2,713 posts

186 months

Wednesday 5th June
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Try offering your local fire brigade, or a truck recovery company a chance to practice with one of their air bags, if they can stand a HGV back on it's wheels, this'll be a doddle.

Make a good training excercise.

s p a c e m a n

10,839 posts

150 months

Wednesday 5th June
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Hire a bouncy castle and slip it underneath the rock, inflate and bounce it up there