CGT on shares

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HowMuchLonger

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3,012 posts

199 months

Thursday 25th November 2010
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Are there any tips on minimizing any cgt due upon the sale of shares. I am looking at (for me) a significant sum with a huge roi I would even consider non dom status if it would help.

Thank you.

Mx_Stu

819 posts

229 months

Thursday 25th November 2010
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Do you have a wife? Transfer enough shares to her to utilise her annual exemption as well as yours.

Are you able to stagger the disposal to straddle two tax years and thus use two years annual exemptions.

HowMuchLonger

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Thursday 25th November 2010
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Whilst your suggestions are very good, it is not quite what I am looking for. The sums are significantly over the exception levels, hence my looking for help.

Eric Mc

122,690 posts

271 months

Thursday 25th November 2010
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What types of shares are they i.e. are they just normal PLC type shares or are they shares you own in a small owner managed trading business?

HowMuchLonger

Original Poster:

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199 months

Thursday 25th November 2010
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Shares are in an aim listed company...

Eric Mc

122,690 posts

271 months

Friday 26th November 2010
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Not one in which you were a controlling investor, manager or employee?

anonymous-user

60 months

Friday 26th November 2010
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could you and would you physically leave the country for a year or five?

here is the simplest outline of the type of thing you could consider (scroll down to the capital gains section)

http://www.hornbeam-accountancy.co.uk/?page=11275

HowMuchLonger

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Friday 26th November 2010
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Eric Mc said:
Not one in which you were a controlling investor, manager or employee?
No to all, but may end up as employee. Would that change things?

Eric Mc

122,690 posts

271 months

Sunday 28th November 2010
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HowMuchLonger said:
Eric Mc said:
Not one in which you were a controlling investor, manager or employee?
No to all, but may end up as employee. Would that change things?
I was just looking at whether Entepreneur Relief might apply. I don';t think it would, ion these circumstances..
Could you dispose of your piecemeal shares over a number of tax years?

Biggles111

463 posts

269 months

Sunday 28th November 2010
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Other than the suggestions above if you are non resident for tax purposes at the point of buying the shares, and at the point of disposal then you might avoid tax. Not 100% sure on this though, as the advice I got related to options received in the course of offshore employment and so would have fallen under income rather than CGT.

Edited by Biggles111 on Sunday 28th November 09:41

surrey7er

3,928 posts

275 months

Sunday 28th November 2010
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Is there still any indexation available or did Labour ditch that??

HowMuchLonger

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3,012 posts

199 months

Wednesday 29th December 2010
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anonymous said:
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This is not my company. I bought the shares in the market.

I have no accountant.

My purchase was based on an (in my view) strong management team.

Return is now in the 1000's of percent.

I expect I now have a cgt exposure of several hundred k, I am therefore very eager for some advice.

I am an independent trader not involved with the company.

Eric Mc

122,690 posts

271 months

Wednesday 29th December 2010
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If the gains are of that magnitude, you should be seeking good advice from specialists - and be prepared to pay for it.

HowMuchLonger

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Wednesday 29th December 2010
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Eric Mc said:
If the gains are of that magnitude, you should be seeking good advice from specialists - and be prepared to pay for it.
Can you recommend any? I know people who use Smith and Williamson, would they be okay.

Tonker, with respect to which company........I have been actively trading to give me that roi, actual share price increase is in the region of ........not giving any more away, apart from I may be joining them in the near future, and am exited by how much I can learn.



Edited by HowMuchLonger on Wednesday 29th December 19:10


Edited by HowMuchLonger on Wednesday 29th December 19:20

Hyper10

432 posts

175 months

Thursday 3rd February 2011
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What you need is a Tax Barrister not an Accountant. However probably too late since I know from bitter experience its all about pre planning. Also forget Nom Dom, the chances of tis happening are so remote and anyway if money in UK whats the point.
HowMuchLonger said:
Are there any tips on minimizing any cgt due upon the sale of shares. I am looking at (for me) a significant sum with a huge roi I would even consider non dom status if it would help.

Thank you.

F458

1,009 posts

175 months

Friday 4th February 2011
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Look in to Renumeration Trusts - I am!!

NDA

22,181 posts

231 months

Friday 4th February 2011
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Eric's your man on here.... However, if you've held the shares for a couple of years, don't you qualify for taper relief? That's aimed at Eric really.

Could you transfer the shares to a company owned by you and take a dividend or loan? Probably not I suspect.

As previously advised, you need professional advice - the revenue are increasingly hungry for cash so you need to be very careful.

Eric Mc

122,690 posts

271 months

Friday 4th February 2011
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Taper Relief abolished 6 April 2008.

HowMuchLonger

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199 months

Friday 4th February 2011
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Thanks for your replies.

The answer for me is too pay the £x00,000 in capital gains on the rise so far. Then transfer it all into a pension, and borrow money against the pension when needed.

Damn taxes,