Zimbabwe - next for investors?

Zimbabwe - next for investors?

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Zip106

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14,850 posts

195 months

Tuesday 24th August 2010
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Been doing quite a bit of research on companies in agro-chemical, insurance and property sectors in Zim.

As a novice, would I be insane to chuck £3-400 in to a couple of companies that are rising?

I'd be looking at this for a long term.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

204 months

Tuesday 24th August 2010
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Novice as in novice to hyper risk emerging markets or novice to equity investing period? If the latter then probably not the best bet but who knows.

Fittster

20,120 posts

219 months

Tuesday 24th August 2010
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I'd get a copy of the recent moneyweek magazine:

Is Zimbabwe the next emerging market dynamo?

CDP

7,508 posts

260 months

Tuesday 24th August 2010
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Keeping it to a small amount you can afford to lose sounds like the best idea.

rpguk

4,480 posts

290 months

Tuesday 24th August 2010
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What are the fees like in investing in Zimbabwe? Can you get the £15/trade type deals or will the fees eat up a big chunk of your investment.

Also do you want to invest in such a regime?

Zip106

Original Poster:

14,850 posts

195 months

Tuesday 24th August 2010
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Novice full stop.

I don't mind losing a bit of cash.

I knew it wouldn't be long before someone mentioned the 'regime'.
That's not what I'm investing in, surely investing in the country and its populous can only help it (and me smile )
Talk of regimes, people still invest in China?

I've just been reading the Moneyweek item so I think I'll give it a go.

MrAdaam

1,094 posts

172 months

Tuesday 24th August 2010
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So, where would you go about investing a small amount into these? Say, 1k?

MrCheese

339 posts

189 months

Wednesday 25th August 2010
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I had a look at LonZim over a year ago and thought about putting £1k in as a pure punt. Their pitch was that they invest in a broad range of Zim companies. Last time I looked share price had gone from 100p to 27p and I think they might have been taken over.

I reckon this type of punting is only for beer money sized bets.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

204 months

Wednesday 25th August 2010
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Highly risky thats for sure - that said the OP's garage does look very nice so £1k could easily be beer money to him.

I wouldnt touch it personally - Mugabe for starters he'd have to go as his idea of sharing the country's wealth with the poor blacks (in theory a great idea) has destroyed profitable farms which employed many staff

Zip106

Original Poster:

14,850 posts

195 months

Wednesday 25th August 2010
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Well, I've just put in the price of dinner for 2 at a Michelin restaurant into LonZim.
I looked at Masawara but something doesn't sit right with it.

Anyway, we'll see what happens.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

204 months

Wednesday 25th August 2010
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Zip106 said:
Well, I've just put in the price of dinner for 2 at a Michelin restaurant into LonZim.
I looked at Masawara but something doesn't sit right with it.

Anyway, we'll see what happens.
Are we talking about the Fat duck at Bray prices or much more?

Fat duck - tasting menu is c£150 per person.... I've never been but instead have been to his other joint over the road to this one (more or less) its a Gastro and MUCH more reasonable.

Zip106

Original Poster:

14,850 posts

195 months

Wednesday 25th August 2010
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Ha ha....

Roughly yes - about that much.

Now I've just got tell the wife her birthday dinner is in Zimbabwe so we're off to Maccy D's....

CDP

7,508 posts

260 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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Zip106 said:
Now I've just got tell the wife her birthday dinner is in Zimbabwe
I wouldn't, she'll want to see tickets...

nomisesor

983 posts

193 months

Tuesday 14th September 2010
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Well, direct investors, what do you think of the news today?

Interesting to see how the Chinese respond, but they provide (allegedly low quality) infrastructure projects in return for mining rights which is one model proposed to ameliorate the 51% transfer of companies to ZPF apparatchiks....sorry "empowerment".

DOI - I have no direct investments in the country, though anyone in FTSE 100 or allshare funds will have some exposure - subsidiaries of large miners etc.

Edit to correct spelling mistake.

Edit - Zimbabwean friend tells me that this has long been trailed and the minimal reaction (-2%) in, for example Lonzim's share price today would seem to confirm that. Who will provide the cash to buy out 51% of the companies - China presumably, via local ZPF frontmen.

Edited by nomisesor on Tuesday 14th September 08:38


Edited by nomisesor on Tuesday 14th September 18:27