PAYE... how do they actually work it out?
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Morning all
I'm confused as to how they actually work PAYE out.
Now, I understand there are earnings thresholds, and any income over each threshold is taxed accordingly. What I don't understand is whether this is on a monthly basis or cumulatively over the year. I'll try to illustrate (bear with me):
For example, if you were to earn £45k in a year, then you would pay a small amount at 40%, some at 22% but NONE at 50%. However, if you were to earn £35k in a month, and then £10k over the remaining 11 months of the year would you pay the same tax? Or, do they look at your £35k in month one and assume that's what you get every month, thereby taxing you at 50% on a large chunk of your earnings?
Hope that makes sense, been up most of the night so feeling a bit
Thanks
BF
I'm confused as to how they actually work PAYE out.
Now, I understand there are earnings thresholds, and any income over each threshold is taxed accordingly. What I don't understand is whether this is on a monthly basis or cumulatively over the year. I'll try to illustrate (bear with me):
For example, if you were to earn £45k in a year, then you would pay a small amount at 40%, some at 22% but NONE at 50%. However, if you were to earn £35k in a month, and then £10k over the remaining 11 months of the year would you pay the same tax? Or, do they look at your £35k in month one and assume that's what you get every month, thereby taxing you at 50% on a large chunk of your earnings?
Hope that makes sense, been up most of the night so feeling a bit
Thanks
BF
Here's how £45,000 would be taxed (and NIed as well)
Income Tax (PAYE)
Gross Salary - £45,000
Less: Personal Tax allowance - £6,475
Taxable Salary - £38,525
1st £37,400 taxed @ 20% = £7,480.00 tax
Next £1,125 @ 40% = £450 tax
Total tax = £7,930.00
Employee's National Insurance
1st £5,720 @ 0% = £Nil
Next £38,168 @ 11% = £4,198.48
Next £1,112 @ 1% = £111.20
Total Employee's NI = £4,209.60
Total Tax and NI deducted for year = £12,139.60
Total Net Salary for Year = £32,860.40
For the monthly figures, simplyb divide by 12 to get -
Gross Salary - £3,750.00
Tax and NI deductions - £1,011.63
Net Monthly salary - £2,738.37
This means, of course, that the REAL peercentage value of all deductions from the salary comes to 27% approximately.
Obviously, if a person doesn't have the normal £6,475 tax allowance (which gives rise to the 647L PAYE tax code), then the tax calculation will be different. Tax codes have no effect on NI calculations.
Income Tax (PAYE)
Gross Salary - £45,000
Less: Personal Tax allowance - £6,475
Taxable Salary - £38,525
1st £37,400 taxed @ 20% = £7,480.00 tax
Next £1,125 @ 40% = £450 tax
Total tax = £7,930.00
Employee's National Insurance
1st £5,720 @ 0% = £Nil
Next £38,168 @ 11% = £4,198.48
Next £1,112 @ 1% = £111.20
Total Employee's NI = £4,209.60
Total Tax and NI deducted for year = £12,139.60
Total Net Salary for Year = £32,860.40
For the monthly figures, simplyb divide by 12 to get -
Gross Salary - £3,750.00
Tax and NI deductions - £1,011.63
Net Monthly salary - £2,738.37
This means, of course, that the REAL peercentage value of all deductions from the salary comes to 27% approximately.
Obviously, if a person doesn't have the normal £6,475 tax allowance (which gives rise to the 647L PAYE tax code), then the tax calculation will be different. Tax codes have no effect on NI calculations.
V8mate said:
You've got it right, OP.
Let's say you start your job on April 5th.
At the end of Month 1, you'll have earned X - the PAYE system assumes you'll earn X*12 over the year.
At the end of Month 2, it'll assume you'll earn:
(Month 1 + Month 2)/2 * 12 over the year.
And so on.
Correct - although there are special and different rules for calculating NI on Directors' salaries.Let's say you start your job on April 5th.
At the end of Month 1, you'll have earned X - the PAYE system assumes you'll earn X*12 over the year.
At the end of Month 2, it'll assume you'll earn:
(Month 1 + Month 2)/2 * 12 over the year.
And so on.
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