More bribary!!! 50% saving accounts for dole-scum.

More bribary!!! 50% saving accounts for dole-scum.

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gamefreaks

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1,995 posts

193 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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Haven't seen this discussed yet. Its a real piss-boiler.

DirectGov said:
From July 2010, there will be a new government supported cash saving scheme called the 'Saving Gateway'. It's for people of working age who are on lower incomes, and aims to help kick-start a saving habit. The government will add 50 pence for each £1 saved into Saving Gateway accounts.
Sounds good right? Get people to save?

Of course, this being Labour, there is a catch...

DirectGov said:
You can open a Saving Gateway account if you get any of the following:

* Income Support
* Jobseeker's Allowance
* Incapacity Benefit
* Employment Support Allowance
* Severe Disablement Allowance
* Carer's Allowance - you must be getting the allowance not just have an entitlement
* tax credits - but only if the final award for the 2009-10 tax year was based on a household income of less than £16,040
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTaxAndBenefits/Ma...

Its getting to the point where i'd damned near be better off if I just jacked in working and lived off the state. Free house, free money, saving topped up. No wories, just stay in bed. Watch some daytime telly.

I'm sure this will make you all feel much better about your crappy 1.0%apr (minus tax don't forget) account.

fk sake!

Merlot

4,121 posts

214 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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Whilst I don't like it, it's not as bad as it first seems.

50% after two years, and for a max of just £25 a month, or £300 max 'interest' per person.



ShadownINja

77,368 posts

288 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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Here, maybe this is more your thing?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/51450...

Or perhaps...

http://www.lep.co.uk/weirdnews/Pregnant-women-paid...

Edited by ShadownINja on Thursday 8th April 20:44

gamefreaks

Original Poster:

1,995 posts

193 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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Merlot said:
Whilst I don't like it, it's not as bad as it first seems.

50% after two years, and for a max of just £25 a month, or £300 max 'interest' per person.
Its not so much the total amount, its more the principle.

The rest of us are being shafted good and propper by low interest rates and banks.

randlemarcus

13,585 posts

237 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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So, silly thought, set up a website offering 10% of the interest to the account holder for the little matter of you contributing the £25 a month. You walk away with x times £400. Small matter of trust, but not insuperable. Be interesting to see if they run fraud analysis across the account providers.

Merlot

4,121 posts

214 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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gamefreaks said:
Merlot said:
Whilst I don't like it, it's not as bad as it first seems.

50% after two years, and for a max of just £25 a month, or £300 max 'interest' per person.
Its not so much the total amount, its more the principle.

The rest of us are being shafted good and propper by low interest rates and banks.
I completely agree with you, I was just pointing out that it could be worse! smile

Maxf

8,420 posts

247 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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Merlot said:
Whilst I don't like it, it's not as bad as it first seems.

50% after two years, and for a max of just £25 a month, or £300 max 'interest' per person.
but to get £150 a year at the current 'savings accounts' rates of, say 0.50% you need to have scrimped together £30,000!

Not the point of your post, I know...

Olivera

7,574 posts

245 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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I actually thought this was some kind of late april fools. Or a fake website with a similar government domain name. Then I realised that we are actually living in the crazy world of Broon and fiscally bankrupt nu Labour.

rageshootmadfuriouspunchbangheadranting

Olivera

7,574 posts

245 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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Merlot said:
gamefreaks said:
Merlot said:
Whilst I don't like it, it's not as bad as it first seems.

50% after two years, and for a max of just £25 a month, or £300 max 'interest' per person.
Its not so much the total amount, its more the principle.

The rest of us are being shafted good and propper by low interest rates and banks.
I completely agree with you, I was just pointing out that it could be worse! smile
Are you a retard ? banghead

gamefreaks

Original Poster:

1,995 posts

193 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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Maxf said:
Merlot said:
Whilst I don't like it, it's not as bad as it first seems.

50% after two years, and for a max of just £25 a month, or £300 max 'interest' per person.
but to get £150 a year at the current 'savings accounts' rates of, say 0.50% you need to have scrimped together £30,000!

Not the point of your post, I know...
Its more than that! Don't forget that you are taxed on interest earned!

amir_j

3,579 posts

207 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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If it actually worked (doubt it) then would be a good idea- as if they don't save its us paying for their upkeep later.

Merlot

4,121 posts

214 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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Olivera said:
Merlot said:
gamefreaks said:
Merlot said:
Whilst I don't like it, it's not as bad as it first seems.

50% after two years, and for a max of just £25 a month, or £300 max 'interest' per person.
Its not so much the total amount, its more the principle.

The rest of us are being shafted good and propper by low interest rates and banks.
I completely agree with you, I was just pointing out that it could be worse! smile
Are you a retard ? banghead
No, thank you. I've simply realised it's pointless getting repeatedly angry at these twunts supposedly in charge. Only a few weeks left smile

For the record, I think this saving scheme sucks and can't stand this constant pandering to the underclass.

Merlot

4,121 posts

214 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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Maxf said:
Merlot said:
Whilst I don't like it, it's not as bad as it first seems.

50% after two years, and for a max of just £25 a month, or £300 max 'interest' per person.
but to get £150 a year at the current 'savings accounts' rates of, say 0.50% you need to have scrimped together £30,000!

Not the point of your post, I know...
If you've managed to scrimp together £30k, surely you'd use a bit of nous and find a higher paying savings rate? I'm currently averaging just over 6% on my cash savings, although admittedly this will drop as and when fixed deals end. I think you can quite easily get 3.5% at the moment.


Maxf

8,420 posts

247 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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Merlot said:
Maxf said:
Merlot said:
Whilst I don't like it, it's not as bad as it first seems.

50% after two years, and for a max of just £25 a month, or £300 max 'interest' per person.
but to get £150 a year at the current 'savings accounts' rates of, say 0.50% you need to have scrimped together £30,000!

Not the point of your post, I know...
If you've managed to scrimp together £30k, surely you'd use a bit of nous and find a higher paying savings rate? I'm currently averaging just over 6% on my cash savings, although admittedly this will drop as and when fixed deals end. I think you can quite easily get 3.5% at the moment.
Where can you quite easily get 3.5% at the moment?

Merlot

4,121 posts

214 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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Maxf said:
Merlot said:
Maxf said:
Merlot said:
Whilst I don't like it, it's not as bad as it first seems.

50% after two years, and for a max of just £25 a month, or £300 max 'interest' per person.
but to get £150 a year at the current 'savings accounts' rates of, say 0.50% you need to have scrimped together £30,000!

Not the point of your post, I know...
If you've managed to scrimp together £30k, surely you'd use a bit of nous and find a higher paying savings rate? I'm currently averaging just over 6% on my cash savings, although admittedly this will drop as and when fixed deals end. I think you can quite easily get 3.5% at the moment.
Where can you quite easily get 3.5% at the moment?
Plenty of Building Society accounts at between 4 & 5% (Bath, Norwich & Peterborough, Chorley & District etc)

Otherwise:

4.75% Nationwide Fixed Term
4.1% Lloyds TSB Fixed Term Bond (2 Years)

3.5% Halifax ISA


Pothole

34,367 posts

288 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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gamefreaks said:
Merlot said:
Whilst I don't like it, it's not as bad as it first seems.

50% after two years, and for a max of just £25 a month, or £300 max 'interest' per person.
Its not so much the total amount, its more the principle.

The rest of us are being shafted good and propper by low interest rates and banks.
hang on, you're being shafted by paying low interest on your mortgage?

Merlot

4,121 posts

214 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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Pothole said:
gamefreaks said:
Merlot said:
Whilst I don't like it, it's not as bad as it first seems.

50% after two years, and for a max of just £25 a month, or £300 max 'interest' per person.
Its not so much the total amount, its more the principle.

The rest of us are being shafted good and propper by low interest rates and banks.
hang on, you're being shafted by paying low interest on your mortgage?
Good point.

My point has been that this plan will offer a maximum of £300 per person. Most will not take part in this plan, and for those that do many will not pay in £25 a month, and therefore won't get close to the £300.

As a hard-working person who saves at standard bank rates, I don't like it. However, compared with most of the ideas this Government has come up with (Free laptops and Internet access for scroungers etc) it's not as costly.

If there was no limit on the amount that could be saved, that would be an entirely different matter!

Maxf

8,420 posts

247 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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Merlot said:
My point has been that this plan will offer a maximum of £300 per person.
Hardly the point - the amount shouldnt come into it, just the % return, which is significant.

Oh - just checked out those building society accounts you quoted and they all seemed to have problems in some form or another (regular savings only, fixed bonds, only applicable for families etc). Am I missing something? Genuine question - getting shag % all on my rainy day money.

gamefreaks

Original Poster:

1,995 posts

193 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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Pothole said:
gamefreaks said:
Merlot said:
Whilst I don't like it, it's not as bad as it first seems.

50% after two years, and for a max of just £25 a month, or £300 max 'interest' per person.
Its not so much the total amount, its more the principle.

The rest of us are being shafted good and propper by low interest rates and banks.
hang on, you're being shafted by paying low interest on your mortgage?
Don't have one. But I would like to think that the deposit we're trying to save will at least keep up with inflation.

All the low interest rates are doing is keeping house prices artificially inflated so the amount you need to borrow in the first place is bigger.

Merlot

4,121 posts

214 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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Maxf said:
Merlot said:
My point has been that this plan will offer a maximum of £300 per person.
Hardly the point - the amount shouldnt come into it, just the % return, which is significant.

Oh - just checked out those building society accounts you quoted and they all seemed to have problems in some form or another (regular savings only, fixed bonds, only applicable for families etc). Am I missing something? Genuine question - getting shag % all on my rainy day money.
I've not checked the details of all the accounts, just a brief skim.

However, the Government offering is a two year fixed regular saver equivalent, so to compare with an Instant Saver would be like comparing apples and oranges smile.

The 3.5% ISA is a straight forward one, though.