HMRC are assigning me a BR tax code for next year

HMRC are assigning me a BR tax code for next year

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oldbanger

Original Poster:

4,316 posts

244 months

Tuesday 12th January 2010
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Is this normal?

PAYE with only one employer, no other sources of income.

(Obviously I'll query this with the tax people tomorrow, but in the meantime, I'm a bit perturbed, to say the least!)

Eric Mc

122,685 posts

271 months

Tuesday 12th January 2010
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Doesn't sound right. Phone up the tax office using the phone number on the Coding Notice and ask why they think BR is appropriate.

Edited by Eric Mc on Tuesday 12th January 22:32

oldbanger

Original Poster:

4,316 posts

244 months

Thursday 14th January 2010
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The claim is that I have been assigned two tax codes for my current employer (although only recieving one letter) because HMRC have been supplied with two different payroll numbers by them.

The two "different" payroll numbers are (a) my payroll number and (b) my payroll number - (ie. dash) my department name. Ergo I am employed twice and HMRC have two accounts for me regarding my employment. rolleyes

Edited by oldbanger on Thursday 14th January 22:46


Edited by oldbanger on Thursday 14th January 22:47

(MrB)

2,064 posts

214 months

Thursday 14th January 2010
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Had my new tax code today D0, 40% tax ! Not on your nelly, called them and they said they had made a mistake and I should discard the letter. Phew.

Pupp

12,349 posts

278 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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[quote=(MrB)]Had my new tax code today D0, 40% tax ! Not on your nelly, called them and they said they had made a mistake and I should discard the letter. Phew.
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Try two of those (I have two jobs)... might be an interesting conversation tomorrow rolleyes

Lurking Lawyer

4,535 posts

231 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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I too received a curious D0 tax coding on Saturday, which also referred to them taking tax at 40% from Jobseekers Allowance (which I claimed briefly last year but have been working again from May).

Sounds like I'd better given them a call..... Sigh.

Eric Mc

122,685 posts

271 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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Maybe they should rename those D0 Codes "DOH" Codes. They do seem to be issuing these things on a seemingly random basis.

rykard

447 posts

187 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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missus had some issues, she called them and they said that they had implemented a new system and some details got duplicated.....

MigX

791 posts

185 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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i got my letter today as well. br code. can someone explain me what is that?
i have only one job (parcel force) and single.
is that code ok or are they taking more than they should? i couldnt find much information about tax codes.
thanks for the answer in advance

oldbanger

Original Poster:

4,316 posts

244 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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MigX said:
i got my letter today as well. br code. can someone explain me what is that?
i have only one job (parcel force) and single.
is that code ok or are they taking more than they should? i couldnt find much information about tax codes.
thanks for the answer in advance
BR is sometimes called emergency tax, and is usually only applied to 2nd jobs and if you start a new job with no P45. If you are on a BR tax code, you are not entitled to the usual tax free allowance of £6k-odd, you will be taxed on every penny.

And in other news, I have been reissued with a more normal sounding tax code, but they have deducted £20 from my tax free allowance without explanation, which can't even be the code I had last year as I claimed no mileage/expenses and therefore got no P11D for the 2008/09 tax year (I checked with payroll).

Edited by oldbanger on Monday 25th January 19:00

MigX

791 posts

185 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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thank you for the reply.
i work 10 hours a day, i wonder where they got the idea that this is my second job.
tried to phone them but... no result. will try again in the midle of next month.

Lurking Lawyer

4,535 posts

231 months

Tuesday 26th January 2010
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Pah!

I just tried to call HMRC to discuss with them quite why they have seen fit to issue me with a D0 coding, only to find that the number they quote on the letter tells me I have to speak to my own local tax office, and then promptly cuts me off! FFS. Do they set out to try to make it as difficult as possible to talk to some one....?


arguti

1,781 posts

192 months

Tuesday 26th January 2010
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Eric Mc said:
Maybe they should rename those D0 Codes "DOH" Codes. They do seem to be issuing these things on a seemingly random basis.
This is not random, HMRC have starting doing this with my employees much more so in the last 2 years, speaking to various accountants, the opinion is that that are doing this intentionally hoping that
a) people will not notice or not question it and/or
b) when they do notice it, it takes ages to sort out

Bottom line is that from HMRC's perspective, it greatly helps their cashflow, job done!

As an aside, the standard of HMRC has dropped drastically over the last 2 years especially, about 40% of our coding notices we receive have major spelling mistakes and two years ago, they managed to transfer around 20 of our employees including 2 of our director onto the payroll of a local accountants (who happened to do the tax returns of a few of our employees). after a 3 month investigation, HMRC's actual explanation was that one of their staff has "pressed the wrong button on the computer" I kid you not.

Soovy

35,829 posts

277 months

Tuesday 26th January 2010
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[quote=(MrB)]Had my new tax code today D0, 40% tax ! Not on your nelly, called them and they said they had made a mistake and I should discard the letter. Phew.
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Same here.

It's a try on.


Cheeky c nts

Deva Link

26,934 posts

251 months

Tuesday 26th January 2010
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arguti said:
As an aside, the standard of HMRC has dropped drastically over the last 2 years especially,
Thousands of long-serving HMRC staff have been kicked out over the last few years as most of the local offices have closed and the work is centralised. People wanted fewer Civil Servants.

News item here about wrong coding notices:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8478271.stm

Soovy

35,829 posts

277 months

Tuesday 26th January 2010
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Just seen this.

WTF!!

http://www.ukbudget.com/UKBudget2009/employers/Bud...


s s s.

So that means 60% tax on everything over £100k up to £112,950?


s.


Silver993tt

9,064 posts

245 months

Tuesday 26th January 2010
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Eric Mc

122,685 posts

271 months

Tuesday 26th January 2010
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No - they are two separate issues.

One is an HMRC cock-up.

The other is deliberate HMRC policy.

ruddermode

105 posts

244 months

Tuesday 26th January 2010
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Hmmm, just looked at my payslip and noticed I'm on a BR code.

I was self-employed before starting here and the two jobs overlapped - hence filling in my tax return last week for 2008-2009 I had to fill in both sections.

However, I think that I've had no self-employed income in the current tax year (I'll have to check when I get home). If that's the case - what's the chances of a) getting the tax I've overpaid (because of no allowance) back, and b) getting them to change the tax code to a relevant one with a simple phone call?

Eric Mc

122,685 posts

271 months

Tuesday 26th January 2010
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Have you actually ceased Self Employment?

Did you complete a Form P46 when you commenced Employment with your curent employer?