Stamp duty if re-mortgaging (adding person to mortgage)?

Stamp duty if re-mortgaging (adding person to mortgage)?

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mikestrat

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2,775 posts

178 months

Friday 8th January 2010
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Hi guys, my (now wife) girlfriend and I bought our house last year and she is owner on the owner on Land Registry and Mortage. We did this as at the time my divorce had not been finalised.

We now want to re-mortgage and add me to the ownership/mortgage.

I am worried after surfing around that this will mean that we will have to pay Stamp Duty on 50% of the value that my wife is "selling" to me.

Is this the case? Surely not? SD on 50% would be a BIG number!

Cheers
Mike

SGirl

7,919 posts

267 months

Friday 8th January 2010
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Why not just go to a solicitor and get a Trust Deed drawn up? That effectively gives both of you equal rights to the property without having to mess around with revaluations and things.

mikestrat

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2,775 posts

178 months

Friday 8th January 2010
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Thanks SGirl. I'll look into it. However, if we did want (have to) remortgage would stamp duty have to be paid or could it be avoided?

SGirl

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267 months

Friday 8th January 2010
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Sorry Mike, I don't know - I just took out a mortgage on a new property rather than remortgaging an already mortgaged one. I've just done the Trust Deed thing though, so if you want details of the solicitor who drew up my docs for me, just drop me a line.

Maybe Eric Mc would know?

mikestrat

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Friday 8th January 2010
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It feels "right"? Don't know, I suspect its more an emotional thing. Feels scary paying a st load of mortage and now "owning" the house!

Lurking Lawyer

4,535 posts

231 months

Friday 8th January 2010
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It's called a transfer of equity and, yes, I'm afraid it's considered to be a transfer of land that attracts SDLT. Or at least it did when my wife and I did it a few years ago.

It's not on 50% of the value of the house though - I seem to remember that account has to be taken of the size of the mortgage over the land too.

And bear in mind that SDLT isn't payable unless the notional value of the share being transferred is greater than £125K.

Any halfway-competent property lawyer will be able to tell you straightaway how the value of the share being transferred is valued and what that means in terms of SDLT.

Iain328

12,699 posts

212 months

Friday 8th January 2010
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Lurking Lawyer said:
It's called a transfer of equity and, yes, I'm afraid it's considered to be a transfer of land that attracts SDLT. Or at least it did when my wife and I did it a few years ago.

It's not on 50% of the value of the house though - I seem to remember that account has to be taken of the size of the mortgage over the land too.

And bear in mind that SDLT isn't payable unless the notional value of the share being transferred is greater than £125K.

Any halfway-competent property lawyer will be able to tell you straightaway how the value of the share being transferred is valued and what that means in terms of SDLT.
Hmm does this apply between husband & wife? Surely she can just gift him half the equity in the house? If it is eligible for SDLT because its more than 125K then maybe look at doing it in chunks across multiple tax years. SDLT is based on an indivisual transaction so if you spread it out it may be you can get around the thing that way.

Because its a transfer between "connected parties" there is probably a form you need to fill in that will trigger a valuation from a district valuer. Bound to be something on the HMRC site about this.



Edited by Iain328 on Friday 8th January 22:54

scotal

8,751 posts

285 months

Monday 11th January 2010
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It's not a straight 50% of the property value, the amount of SDLT you have to pay will be directly linked to the size of the mortgage.

This:

HMRC said:
Example 2 (SDLT payable even though no money changes hands)
Richard King is the owner of a property valued at £500,000. The equity amounts to £100,000 and there is an outstanding mortgage of £400,000.

Richard transfers half the property to his wife Liz when they marry and in turn she takes on half the mortgage of £200,000.

SDLT is charged on the amount paid for a property or the amount of 'consideration' given. By taking liability for the mortgage Liz has given 'consideration' of £200,000 for her share of the property and so SDLT is charged on that amount.

The amount of the equity is not included in the calculation as SDLT is only charged on the consideration given.

SDLT is charged at 1% on £200,000 so Liz will pay £2,000 SDLT and notify HMRC of the transfer by completing an SDLT return.
Is what would apply in your case I think.
Taken from here http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/sdlt/transaction/transfer-o...