Tax investigation

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Exige77

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6,522 posts

197 months

Thursday 7th January 2010
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I am in the middle of a tax investigation.

The guys at the tax office are relentlessly asking for more and more stuff going back further and further.

Does any one have any experience of this ? Will they carry on until they can get some cash out of you ? If they find something are they more or less likely to prosecute these days ?

Any help welcome.

Thanks

Ex77

Eric Mc

122,685 posts

271 months

Thursday 7th January 2010
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Technically, they can go back six years and, if they suspect fraud, indefinitely.
However, they cannot just keep asking questions in the hope of finding something.

What is your accountant doing on this?

Defcon5

6,277 posts

197 months

Thursday 7th January 2010
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Eric Mc said:
What is your accountant doing on this?
http://www.webcpa.com/news/31234-1.html laugh

Eric Mc

122,685 posts

271 months

Thursday 7th January 2010
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Defcon5 said:
Eric Mc said:
What is your accountant doing on this?
http://www.webcpa.com/news/31234-1.html laugh
I would like to think he wasn't using a Florida based accountant.

rich1231

17,331 posts

266 months

Thursday 7th January 2010
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Commission based money sniffers.



LC23

1,290 posts

231 months

Thursday 7th January 2010
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Which taxes are they looking at? VAT? Payroll? Corporation? Your personal tax affairs? If you haven't already engaged an accountant to help you with this then do it as soon as possible. I work for an accountancy firm and we handle these investigations. We usually find that it goes wrong where the firm/individual under investigation decides that paying an accountant for professional advice isn't worth it and try to handle it themselves.

Feel free to PM me - happy to have a chat about what they are asking and where they might be going with their investigation. A colleague of mine actually used to handle this from HMRC's side so he has an insite into their methods.

Exige77

Original Poster:

6,522 posts

197 months

Thursday 7th January 2010
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Hi Lee,

E-mailed you !

Thanks

Ex77

Eric Mc

122,685 posts

271 months

Thursday 7th January 2010
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Exige77 said:
Hi Lee,

E-mailed you !

Thanks

Ex77
Were you not using an accountant already?

Exige77

Original Poster:

6,522 posts

197 months

Thursday 7th January 2010
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Yes but just a basic level guy who prepares my tax return. I now need help from someone who is familiar with tax invetigations.

Once they start seems like they never let go. I really need some advice from imformed people.

Ex77


Exige77

Original Poster:

6,522 posts

197 months

Thursday 7th January 2010
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Yes but just a basic level guy who prepares my tax return. I now need help from someone who is familiar with tax invetigations.

Once they start seems like they never let go. I really need some advice from imformed people.

Ex77


Eric Mc

122,685 posts

271 months

Friday 8th January 2010
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One of the downsides (if you can call it that) of the Self Assessment system is that tax enquiries and tax investigations are now a lot rare than they were compared to the pre-self assessment era (before 1996). As a result, many practicioners who began their practices after that period have very little experience in dealing directly with HMRC - especially when it comes to fending of queries.

Has the Revenue suggested having a meeting with them yet?

Exige77

Original Poster:

6,522 posts

197 months

Friday 8th January 2010
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No meeting just endless demands for bank statements, credit card statements. detailed list of all assets which is never detailed enough, when we bought cars, how much they were, how did we pay for them etc etc.

Real police state stuff with no end in sight.

Ex77

Eric Mc

122,685 posts

271 months

Friday 8th January 2010
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Exige77 said:
No meeting just endless demands for bank statements, credit card statements. detailed list of all assets which is never detailed enough, when we bought cars, how much they were, how did we pay for them etc etc.

Real police state stuff with no end in sight.

Ex77
It sounds like a suggestion for a meeting should come up soon. Be very careful how you approach such a meeting and, if one is suggested, make sure you meet at the tax office (not your business premises or home) and make sure you are represented by your accountant.

Are you sole trader?
A partnership?
A limited company?

Has HMRC indicated what prompted the investigation?

Is the investigation and enquiry into a specific Self Assessment tax return for a specific year?

At the beginning of the investigation HMRC would have sent you a formal letter informing you that they were going to enquire into a certain tax return/set of accounts etc.

What did that letter specifically say and when was it sent to you?

Edited by Eric Mc on Friday 8th January 10:19

hss111

233 posts

189 months

Friday 8th January 2010
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depending on the nature your phones probably been tapped. dont say anything your shouldnt.

ringram

14,700 posts

254 months

Friday 8th January 2010
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Probably a bit over the top on the phone tap. But its possible.
Burn everything biggrin

Eric Mc

122,685 posts

271 months

Friday 8th January 2010
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ringram said:
Probably a bit over the top on the phone tap. But its possible.
Burn everything biggrin
Phone tapping would be reserved for suspected cases of serious fraud or if national security was involved. It's not allowed for routine enquiries into tax returns.

I was involved in a tax investigation where tbhe client had an "unfortunate" fire which almost (but didn't quite) destroy some basic records. It didn't stop the investigation and just made it more problematic for teh taxpayer.

Edited by Eric Mc on Friday 8th January 13:44

Exige77

Original Poster:

6,522 posts

197 months

Friday 8th January 2010
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Eric you have an e-mail.

thanks

Exige 77

plasticpig

12,932 posts

231 months

Friday 8th January 2010
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One very basic point. You have the right to copies of all documents that you have supplied to HMRC. Some accountants used to send their clients tax returns in and request copies back from HMRC to save on photocopying costs!

Laner

127 posts

261 months

Sunday 10th January 2010
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Although a little late now but the FSB offer full support in these matters inclusive of the membership fees.

coanda

2,649 posts

196 months

Monday 11th January 2010
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They've had to diversify since the end of the KGB....

On a more serious note...stick it to the man exige77!!