Should I pay the PCP balloon?

Should I pay the PCP balloon?

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Mr Miata

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1,207 posts

65 months

Wednesday 30th April
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Im coming to the end of my PCP agreement and have the option of paying the balloon and keeping the car or handing it back and starting again.

Im really happy with the car, I can’t fault it and I can’t think of another car I’d prefer to have. However my concern is the reliability and risk of an expensive repair bill, now that it’s now 5 years old, 70000 miles and out of warranty. How much longer is the car going to last?

I’ve just recieved a financial bonus from my employer which would cover the balloon payment. So I don’t need to re-finance.

Looking on Autotrader. The car is in positive equity, if I wanted to sell the car, it would sell for more than the balloon payment. However then I would have to buy another car.

My biggest question is what’s the most wisest way to use my bonus? Pay off the PCP and keep the car or use the bonus for something else?

bennno

13,810 posts

284 months

Wednesday 30th April
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not sure if this is just clickbait

if you want to keep the car - pay the ballon

if you don't want to keep the car - get value from wbac or to px it in against a newer car, if its more than the balloon, pay the ballon

Mr Miata

Original Poster:

1,207 posts

65 months

Wednesday 30th April
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bennno said:
not sure if this is just clickbait

if you want to keep the car - pay the ballon

if you don't want to keep the car - get value from wbac or to px it in against a newer car, if its more than the balloon, pay the ballon
My question was to weigh up the pros and cons. As I’ve no experience of this and I’m no finance expert.

Is there any downsides or negatives to paying off the balloon? Other than the risk of having a car out of warranty.

Vsix and Vtec

964 posts

33 months

Wednesday 30th April
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Mr Miata said:
Is there any downsides or negatives to paying off the balloon? Other than the risk of having a car out of warranty.
Not if you like the car. Ultimately, if the car is worth more than the balloon, then you're in a good position. You get a car worth more than you're about to pay for it with the added bonus that you know exactly what the history of the car is (unlike any second hand replacement).

bennno

13,810 posts

284 months

Wednesday 30th April
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Mr Miata said:
Is there any downsides or negatives to paying off the balloon? Other than the risk of having a car out of warranty.
Read my original reply, the balloon status has nothing to do with the warranty position. You can either extend that or you cant.

Really simple, you either want to keep it or you don't, if its the latter but its worth more than the balloon as a px then pay the ballon if you want to keep it for a bit, or alternatively just px it and the dealer will pay off the balloon and put the surplus towards your new purchase.

asfault

13,173 posts

194 months

Wednesday 30th April
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I will answer assuming this isn't a troll.

Baloon payment equals xxxx
You looked up value on autotrade and its xxxx +xxx

It's a no brained from a logic point as well as emotional point.

What's the car? Thats the Only thing that might give you more information from somone

PeteTaylor99

99 posts

11 months

Wednesday 30th April
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A friend/colleague surrendered her BMW at the end because she wanted something different(Lexus ). An intelligent person(Partner), didn't have a clue how it all worked so just handed it back. This was after Covid and on checking there was £11k in equity. It happens-through ignorance

Dixy

3,225 posts

220 months

Wednesday 30th April
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You need to separate the 2 elements.
Finance companies profit from you having a car on finance, paying the balloon and keeping the car keeps that money in your pocket.
Warranty companies make a profit from selling warranties, not buying a warranty keeps that money in your pocket.
But you are carrying the risk.
If you don't want a different car then the only benefit is reducing the risk.
Many people run 5 year old 70,000 mile cars, most don't have big bills.
You pays your money and takes your choice.

Nemophilist

3,148 posts

196 months

Wednesday 30th April
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PeteTaylor99 said:
A friend/colleague surrendered her BMW at the end because she wanted something different(Lexus ). An intelligent person(Partner), didn't have a clue how it all worked so just handed it back. This was after Covid and on checking there was £11k in equity. It happens-through ignorance
I have found out about friends doing this after the fact too.
It must be quite common as talking to friends they seem to think PCP is the same as leasing.

Dealers must be sitting on plenty of balloons that have never been requested.

TwigtheWonderkid

46,179 posts

165 months

Wednesday 30th April
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If the car is worth less than the balloon, send it back. Find out where they sell them. Buy it back if you want, at less than the balloon.

If the car is worth more than the balloon, pay it, and sell the car if you want, for more than you paid.

Boringvolvodriver

10,373 posts

58 months

Wednesday 30th April
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How reliable will a 5 year old car with 70000 miles be? Who knows in reality. It should be fine though.

What car is it and how long have you had it and has anything gone wrong so far?

Do you want a newer car and to use the equity for another PCP or would you prefer saving the monthly payments into a pension or for a car in another 2 years or so.

if you want to keep it, then pay the PCP off and either buy an extended warranty or use the monthly saving as a “repair” fund in case of need. That’s what I would do.


Sheepshanks

37,061 posts

134 months

Wednesday 30th April
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Nemophilist said:
PeteTaylor99 said:
A friend/colleague surrendered her BMW at the end because she wanted something different(Lexus ). An intelligent person(Partner), didn't have a clue how it all worked so just handed it back. This was after Covid and on checking there was £11k in equity. It happens-through ignorance
I have found out about friends doing this after the fact too.
It must be quite common as talking to friends they seem to think PCP is the same as leasing.

Dealers must be sitting on plenty of balloons that have never been requested.
It's not the dealer than benefits, it's the finance company.

Be interesting to know how the £11K mentioned was arrived at - looking around at used cars up to a couple of years oldand around £35K recently, there was typically £10K difference between what a car was up for and what its WBAC price was (I also checked a few on CAP HPI until they blocked me, and they were the same). So if the £11K came from what the same car was retailing for it's unlikely a seller could achieve anything like that.

DoctorX

7,756 posts

182 months

Wednesday 30th April
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My balloon is due next month and as I’m happy with the car I’m paying it off. Who knows what the reliability will be like but those saved monthly payments will cover a lot. WBAC are offering 11k more than my balloon (in theory), must have been an astute purchase!

Legacywr

13,429 posts

203 months

Wednesday 30th April
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The value of similar cars you’ve seen on AT are probably with dealers, and don’t represent what you’ll achieve out of it.