HL held shares disappearing
HL held shares disappearing
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ReverendCounter

Original Poster:

6,087 posts

206 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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Holders of a certain US stock found their holding had disappeared overnight from their Hargrave Landsdown accounts. Looks like it may be linked to the severe situation that JP Morgan finds itself in.






simong800

3,882 posts

137 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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ReverendCounter said:
Looks like it may be linked to the severe situation that JP Morgan finds itself in.
Forgive my ignorance, but what is the severe situation JP Morgan is in?

ReverendCounter

Original Poster:

6,087 posts

206 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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Healthy to be sitting on $57Trillion in derivatives? Or just unhealthy for the taxpayer who'll be funding the next bailout?

HL>CREST for US stocks>CREST owned by Euroclear>Euroclear developed and funded by JP Morgan>JP Morgan biggest holder of unregulated derivatives in what is obviously an extremely precarious time

Edited by ReverendCounter on Tuesday 29th November 12:14

limpsfield

6,677 posts

283 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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si800 said:
ReverendCounter said:
Looks like it may be linked to the severe situation that JP Morgan finds itself in.
Forgive my ignorance, but what is the severe situation JP Morgan is in?
Their terrible quarterly earnings where they beat analysts expecations?


"Earnings: $3.12 a share, beating the $2.88 estimate of analysts surveyed by Refinitiv.
Revenue: $33.49 billion, exceeding the $32.1 billion estimate."

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/14/jpm-jpmorgan-chase...


I think the Rev may be something of a conspiracy lover

ReverendCounter

Original Poster:

6,087 posts

206 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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limpsfield said:
Their terrible quarterly earnings where they beat analysts expecations?


"Earnings: $3.12 a share, beating the $2.88 estimate of analysts surveyed by Refinitiv.
Revenue: $33.49 billion, exceeding the $32.1 billion estimate."

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/14/jpm-jpmorgan-chase...


I think the Rev may be something of a conspiracy lover
Why do you think one specific stock - a US stock - disappeared from HL portfolios?

Actually just to add, it seems HL are having problems with many US stocks.

Edited by ReverendCounter on Tuesday 29th November 12:22

Scootersp

4,125 posts

218 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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limpsfield said:
Their terrible quarterly earnings where they beat analysts expecations?

"Earnings: $3.12 a share, beating the $2.88 estimate of analysts surveyed by Refinitiv.
Revenue: $33.49 billion, exceeding the $32.1 billion estimate."

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/14/jpm-jpmorgan-chase...

I think the Rev may be something of a conspiracy lover
Maybe but you never know.........

Lehman reported record profits every year from 2005 to 2007. In 2007, it announced $4.2 billion in net income on $19.3 billion in revenue.

"Our capital position at the moment is strong."
-- Former Lehman Brothers CFO Ian Lowitt, five days before the firm filed for bankruptcy on September 15, 2008

gt_12345

1,873 posts

65 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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Scootersp said:
Maybe but you never know.........

Lehman reported record profits every year from 2005 to 2007. In 2007, it announced $4.2 billion in net income on $19.3 billion in revenue.

"Our capital position at the moment is strong."
-- Former Lehman Brothers CFO Ian Lowitt, five days before the firm filed for bankruptcy on September 15, 2008
Derivatives have nothing to do with revenue and profit.

They are financial instruments which alter with market prices.

Scootersp

4,125 posts

218 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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gt_12345 said:
Derivatives have nothing to do with revenue and profit.

They are financial instruments which alter with market prices.
I might argue against the 'nothing' here

but my point was merely that good news, positive reports on earnings etc etc don't always mean things are rosey or will stay rosey long.



ReverendCounter

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6,087 posts

206 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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gt_12345 said:
Derivatives have nothing to do with revenue and profit.

They are financial instruments which alter with market prices.
Is it true that they have been used since the 2008 crash as a vehicle to carry the debt, and that the 2008 crash never really went away because of this?

DonkeyApple

70,397 posts

199 months

Tuesday 29th November 2022
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ReverendCounter said:
Healthy to be sitting on $57Trillion in derivatives? Or just unhealthy for the taxpayer who'll be funding the next bailout?

HL>CREST for US stocks>CREST owned by Euroclear>Euroclear developed and funded by JP Morgan>JP Morgan biggest holder of unregulated derivatives in what is obviously an extremely precarious time

Edited by ReverendCounter on Tuesday 29th November 12:14
Seriously? wink

ReverendCounter

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6,087 posts

206 months

Friday 2nd December 2022
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Hmm...



...what possible reason could there be behind this particular decision...?

Condi

20,457 posts

201 months

Saturday 3rd December 2022
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ReverendCounter said:
Hmm...



...what possible reason could there be behind this particular decision...?
Not sure, what do you think?

simong800

3,882 posts

137 months

Saturday 3rd December 2022
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ReverendCounter said:
Hmm...



...what possible reason could there be behind this particular decision...?
Linked to them stealing shares from peoples HL accounts I assume?

limpsfield

6,677 posts

283 months

Saturday 3rd December 2022
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si800 said:
ReverendCounter said:
Hmm...



...what possible reason could there be behind this particular decision...?
Linked to them stealing shares from peoples HL accounts I assume?
You are so wrong. I think they haven’t stolen ENOUGH shares - hence no bonuses.

simong800

3,882 posts

137 months

Saturday 3rd December 2022
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limpsfield said:
You are so wrong. I think they haven’t stolen ENOUGH shares - hence no bonuses.
biglaugh