Car Finance - Can I Help a Friend?
Car Finance - Can I Help a Friend?
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TheTiger

Original Poster:

15 posts

165 months

Thursday 18th April 2013
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I have a friend who is looking to lease or CPC a car for the next 4 years.

He can't get finance.

Is there any way I can help him out with financing it or acting as a guarentor or something?

TheEnd

15,370 posts

218 months

Thursday 18th April 2013
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I think there is a way, I only remember it from people getting in trouble when the friend turns less friendly.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

285 months

Thursday 18th April 2013
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TheTiger

Original Poster:

15 posts

165 months

Thursday 18th April 2013
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Not quite the information I was seeking ...

DocArbathnot

29,045 posts

213 months

Thursday 18th April 2013
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the golden rule with friends and money is to regard it as a gift. If the money comes back that's a bonus!

If you really want to do this take a loan out and give them the money. If you're not prepared to this then you have your answer, do not get involved with finances.

littlebasher

3,967 posts

201 months

Thursday 18th April 2013
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My friend took out a finance agreement for someone else. The other guy set up a standing order into his bank account to cover the repayments.

Worked fine for 6 months, before this chap got bored with the car, handed it to my friend and cancelled the payments.

My friend was not a wealthy chap and struggled like hell to cover the repayments. It was another 2 years before he could hand it back and walk away from the finance agreement.

Trust nobody, especially with money.

sunbeam alpine

7,249 posts

218 months

Thursday 18th April 2013
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Sorry OP, but I am also unable to offer positive advice.

I have helped friends out in the past, and lost both money and friends. I have also helped (and retained) a friend ONCE.

As others have said, so long as you can afford (and don't mind) to lose the money, do it, otherwise stay away.

P.S. I would personally NOT consider it for something unnecessary like a new car. I have done it on the past to save friends who were on the point of losing their house.

Davel

8,982 posts

288 months

Thursday 18th April 2013
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If you help a friend out financially - often the relationship soon changes.

I wouldn't recommend it either.

rfoster

1,482 posts

284 months

Thursday 18th April 2013
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Tiger

As far as the finance agreement is concerned, unfortunately no, you won't be able to stand as a guarantor as (with most uk finance companies) you generally have to be related to the proposee in some way.

Whether your friend is suggesting that you take the finance in your own name and he'll pay you monthly; that's a different matter and certainly not a route I would consider taking. You'd need to personally be comprehensively insured on the car as the lessee of the vehicle, and should the finance company find out that it's an accommodation deal then they are well within their rights to repossess the car. Not something you want on your own credit file.

Richard

MitchT

17,157 posts

239 months

Thursday 18th April 2013
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OP - You want to help someone whom finance companies, with all their power, consider too risky, to obtain car finance?

Do the truly helpful thing and advise him to seek a more affordable car.

LancerG

2,871 posts

305 months

Monday 22nd April 2013
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I think the last 2 posts sum it up perfectly.

I know he's your friend but he has a history of not paying people, now you want to lend him money ?????????

Fronting the finance for someone else is not a good move.

Interesting to see the thread opinions, nobody being positive about it.

bristolbaron

5,383 posts

242 months

Tuesday 23rd April 2013
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  • alarm bells*
don't do it. he will either be able to get credit at a rate higher than he would like and has turned to you, or is unable to get credit at all and shouldn't be buying a new car.

CDP

8,060 posts

284 months

Tuesday 23rd April 2013
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It's possible to buy a perfectly serviceable car for under a grand which is exactly what he should do. This should be the absolute limit of your involvement - which I can't hardly recommend.

Underwriting other people's credit is a road to ruin.

anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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Friend of mine got a loan out to help his best mate of many years. Best mate subsequently got married and his new wife decided that she'd rather he spent the £250 a month that he'd been diligently paying back on shoes and holidays.

They are no longer best mates.

jeff m2

2,060 posts

181 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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I have lent and borrowed four figures a few times, so far so good.

For a new car and for someone who doesn't understand money....not a good idea.
I would sooner buy them a shed....Pay me when you can.

Conian

8,030 posts

231 months

Friday 26th April 2013
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swerni said:
Of course you can help
Advise them not to buy it, they clearly cannot afford it m
This ^^^

And also all of the 'dont do it!' posts above.

If you want to help him buy a Mondeo in good condition for £600 and let him buy it off you at £100 a month.

CDP

8,060 posts

284 months

Friday 26th April 2013
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swerni said:
Of course you can help
Advise them not to buy it, they clearly cannot afford it m
Best suggestion here by a mile.

Sarnie

8,373 posts

239 months

Friday 26th April 2013
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Where are people getting the notion that the friend can't afford it?

The OP has said that he can't get finance and everyone is subsequently assuming he has adverse credit.....

Maybe the friend can't get finance for another reason such as recently going self employed? May be he's not a homeowner or UK resident perhaps? There are lots of hoops you need to jump through to be able to get finance these days.....


barker22

1,037 posts

197 months

Sunday 28th April 2013
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Can you afford the car on your own?
Why not get the finance set up in your name, ownership in your name, just let him drive it and make sure he sets up a standing order into your account to cover the repayments.
If it does turn sour, at least you own the car and can sell it to recover some costs.

This does require a huge amount of faith in said friend to keep paying though.

All that jazz

7,632 posts

176 months

Sunday 28th April 2013
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DocArbathnot said:
the golden rule with friends and money is to regard it as a gift. If the money comes back that's a bonus!

If you really want to do this take a loan out and give them the money. If you're not prepared to this then you have your answer, do not get involved with finances.
littlebasher said:
Trust nobody, especially with money.
Davel said:
If you help a friend out financially - often the relationship soon changes.

I wouldn't recommend it either.
This, this and this.

I lost my best friend of 20 years who I thought I knew inside out over a large sum of money that he and his bird needed for a house deposit.

People act really weird when it comes to money, even people who you think you know really well like close family and long term friends. Just DO NOT get involved. Make up any excuse you can to avoid the topic and certainly DO NOT ever make them any offers because it will only end in a whole world of hurt. I would literally do anything to be able to turn the clock back and get my best mate back but the damage is done now and there's no going back. It's one of life's very painful lessons..