I just rented out my flat - Council bribed me
Discussion
LowTread said:
The parents?
The father?
It's too late for her now, but if you bring a kid into the world it's YOUR RESPONSIBILITY.
Expecting the state to pay out just because you've done something so unimpressive and completely natural as popped a kid out.
It's the lack of education and control from both (new) grand parents.
I know there are gaps and genuine cases that need support, and that's fine, but making it a lifestyle choice and career is just sickening.
Absolutely! But be careful with your common sense comments otherwise the lib dems on here will be after you! The father?
It's too late for her now, but if you bring a kid into the world it's YOUR RESPONSIBILITY.
Expecting the state to pay out just because you've done something so unimpressive and completely natural as popped a kid out.
It's the lack of education and control from both (new) grand parents.
I know there are gaps and genuine cases that need support, and that's fine, but making it a lifestyle choice and career is just sickening.
Tenacious said:
LowTread said:
The parents?
The father?
It's too late for her now, but if you bring a kid into the world it's YOUR RESPONSIBILITY.
Expecting the state to pay out just because you've done something so unimpressive and completely natural as popped a kid out.
It's the lack of education and control from both (new) grand parents.
I know there are gaps and genuine cases that need support, and that's fine, but making it a lifestyle choice and career is just sickening.
Absolutely! But be careful with your common sense comments otherwise the lib dems on here will be after you! The father?
It's too late for her now, but if you bring a kid into the world it's YOUR RESPONSIBILITY.
Expecting the state to pay out just because you've done something so unimpressive and completely natural as popped a kid out.
It's the lack of education and control from both (new) grand parents.
I know there are gaps and genuine cases that need support, and that's fine, but making it a lifestyle choice and career is just sickening.
I'm absolutely all for there being benefits to help people, but it's got to be those who need help because of circumstances outside of their control, and not through some choice of their own.
The problem we have in this country is the sub-class that's been created (or made worse?) by Labour during their 1997-2010 period of those that are the career-unemployed. Those that choose not to work (much) and know how to game the system.
Those that do 16 hrs a week and not more THROUGH CHOICE because it's not worth it. Or those that pop out a couple of kids because it brings more money coming in and they get a bigger house.
The welfare system has been taken advantage of, and now the country is broke.
I'm anti-brexit, but i guess one positive that might have come out of it is these feckless b
ds might actually be able to fill the void left behind by economic migrants that aren't coming over, or who have gone home. But that hasn't happened either because Britains Got Talent, XFactor and Love Island have convinced them that they're too special to get their hands dirty.Edited by LowTread on Wednesday 19th June 14:52
nuyorican said:
Indeed. People often don’t realise that the vast majority of benefits ‘received’ goes into the pockets of landlords.
...to provide a roof over their heads. Even the council/HA will want payment for that.Most landlords try to avoid tenants who are reliant on benefits, because of the associated problems.
Edited by 98elise on Wednesday 19th June 15:02
98elise said:
nuyorican said:
Indeed. People often don’t realise that the vast majority of benefits ‘received’ goes into the pockets of landlords.
...to provide a roof over their heads. Even the council/HA will want payment for that.Help to buy was such a terrible idea.
People that took advantage of it say that "my grandparents were able to buy their council house and it changed their lives", but what they fail to understand that it took that same opportunity of a roof over their heads away from numerous other families once they were done with it.
LowTread said:
I'm anti-brexit, but i guess one positive that might have come out of it is these feckless bds might actually be able to fill the void left behind by economic migrants that aren't coming over, or who have gone home. But that hasn't happened either because Britains Got Talent, XFactor and Love Island have convinced them that they're too special to get their hands dirty.
And employers don't want 'feckless bds might actually be able to fill the void left behind by economic migrants that aren't coming over, or who have gone home. But that hasn't happened either because Britains Got Talent, XFactor and Love Island have convinced them that they're too special to get their hands dirty.Edited by LowTread on Wednesday 19th June 14:52
ds'. Interesting to note that among all the stories about the feckless benefit scroungers living like Lords on the taxpayers dollar, there is little comment about the OP renting out a flat for more than a working couple could afford.
If the "market rate" for a flat is more than a dual income, no kids family can afford then something in the whole housing system is broken. Councils are forced by legislation to house people and landlords know that they can, to a certain extent, put a price on a property that normal working people cannot afford yet the councils cannot afford not to pay. Obviously this further drives up rental prices and the vicious circle continues.
If the "market rate" for a flat is more than a dual income, no kids family can afford then something in the whole housing system is broken. Councils are forced by legislation to house people and landlords know that they can, to a certain extent, put a price on a property that normal working people cannot afford yet the councils cannot afford not to pay. Obviously this further drives up rental prices and the vicious circle continues.
boyse7en said:
Interesting to note that among all the stories about the feckless benefit scroungers living like Lords on the taxpayers dollar, there is little comment about the OP renting out a flat for more than a working couple could afford.
If the "market rate" for a flat is more than a dual income, no kids family can afford then something in the whole housing system is broken. Councils are forced by legislation to house people and landlords know that they can, to a certain extent, put a price on a property that normal working people cannot afford yet the councils cannot afford not to pay. Obviously this further drives up rental prices and the vicious circle continues.
Op says rent is £1100 per month. Monthly take home for a working couple on even minimum wage would be best part of £3.5k. If the "market rate" for a flat is more than a dual income, no kids family can afford then something in the whole housing system is broken. Councils are forced by legislation to house people and landlords know that they can, to a certain extent, put a price on a property that normal working people cannot afford yet the councils cannot afford not to pay. Obviously this further drives up rental prices and the vicious circle continues.
Tigerj said:
boyse7en said:
Interesting to note that among all the stories about the feckless benefit scroungers living like Lords on the taxpayers dollar, there is little comment about the OP renting out a flat for more than a working couple could afford.
If the "market rate" for a flat is more than a dual income, no kids family can afford then something in the whole housing system is broken. Councils are forced by legislation to house people and landlords know that they can, to a certain extent, put a price on a property that normal working people cannot afford yet the councils cannot afford not to pay. Obviously this further drives up rental prices and the vicious circle continues.
Op says rent is £1100 per month. Monthly take home for a working couple on even minimum wage would be best part of £3.5k. If the "market rate" for a flat is more than a dual income, no kids family can afford then something in the whole housing system is broken. Councils are forced by legislation to house people and landlords know that they can, to a certain extent, put a price on a property that normal working people cannot afford yet the councils cannot afford not to pay. Obviously this further drives up rental prices and the vicious circle continues.
We only had one child as we were worried about affording more/child care costs that were more than our mortgage!
The population is dropping but rather than promote the right backgrounds we reward the bad and lean on those that struggle to have children due to costs to pay for it.
Something is very broken. How do you emigrate again?
The population is dropping but rather than promote the right backgrounds we reward the bad and lean on those that struggle to have children due to costs to pay for it.
Something is very broken. How do you emigrate again?
BoRED S2upid said:
Rusty Old-Banger said:
I knew a guy who would stay up all night before any Jobseekers interview so he looked as rough as fk, and sometimes deliberately st himself in the interview to ensure that people thought he was completely unsuitable for work. He could rebuild his mini without any problems though.
sk, and sometimes deliberately st himself in the interview to ensure that people thought he was completely unsuitable for work. He could rebuild his mini without any problems though. t himself? I think I will stick to working. Not sure I could do that just to avoid the 9-5!
Ken_Code said:
For providing a service. It’s no different to it going to Tesco for food.
Sure. Wasn’t making a judgement. Hate the game, not the player etc. But I’m always mindful of this fact whenever you hear someone saying “so and so gets £1800 benefits a month!”. When £1200 goes to the landlord… Let’s have it right. If there’s a benefits ‘sponge’ it’s landlords. Regardless of the moral compass issue, that’s where the money is going. And if I’m honest, I can’t blame these people for claiming in order to pay the rent. Why would they waste their time on earth slaving to enrich a landlord if they didn’t have to? You’d think there was something wrong with them. Fair enough if the rent was at a level where they could have a life as well, or be able to afford to keep one parent at home with the kids, but it isn’t is it.
Again, not judging anyone. The bottom line is that a hell of a lot more affordable housing with security of tenure desperately needs to be built if you want people to escape the benefits trap.
boyse7en said:
Interesting to note that among all the stories about the feckless benefit scroungers living like Lords on the taxpayers dollar, there is little comment about the OP renting out a flat for more than a working couple could afford.
If the "market rate" for a flat is more than a dual income, no kids family can afford then something in the whole housing system is broken. Councils are forced by legislation to house people and landlords know that they can, to a certain extent, put a price on a property that normal working people cannot afford yet the councils cannot afford not to pay. Obviously this further drives up rental prices and the vicious circle continues.
There is obviously quite a disparity between Local Housing Rates paid by different councils across the country. My local council pay £503 for a 3 bedroom semi-detached house with entitlement for all 3 bedrooms to be occupied. If the "market rate" for a flat is more than a dual income, no kids family can afford then something in the whole housing system is broken. Councils are forced by legislation to house people and landlords know that they can, to a certain extent, put a price on a property that normal working people cannot afford yet the councils cannot afford not to pay. Obviously this further drives up rental prices and the vicious circle continues.
dudleybloke said:
BoRED S2upid said:
Rusty Old-Banger said:
I knew a guy who would stay up all night before any Jobseekers interview so he looked as rough as fk, and sometimes deliberately st himself in the interview to ensure that people thought he was completely unsuitable for work. He could rebuild his mini without any problems though.
sk, and sometimes deliberately st himself in the interview to ensure that people thought he was completely unsuitable for work. He could rebuild his mini without any problems though. t himself? I think I will stick to working. Not sure I could do that just to avoid the 9-5!
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