What is the Conservative legacy?
Discussion
86 said:
Strange for somewhere that people make out is so bad that millions want to come to live here. Friends and relatives tell me it’s grim in France Belgium Germany. European and U.K. economies have zero chance of achieving material growth which means poorer and poorer services going forward no matter who is in power
With all respect, that hasn't really answered the question.Gay marriage was genuinely transformational, the Covid vaccine roll out again is something to be proud of. Brexit was a once in a generation (or more) change. It's ramifications are for another thread though.
What tangible difference for the better has having a conservative government done for the country.
From where I am, most things are just a lot more tired and dysfunctional than in 2010.
SD.
86 said:
Remind me what was Labour’s legacy the last time they were in power?
Oh yes a note left saying there is no money left ! And a bucket load of PFI debt. Genius
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/long_reads/pfi-...
You may want to look at the history of the outgoing chancellor's notes. Oh yes a note left saying there is no money left ! And a bucket load of PFI debt. Genius
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/long_reads/pfi-...
As to Labour’s legacy? In 2001 I took a job as a clinical bed manager in a large district general hospital. A&E waits of 18 hours were common place, elective waiting lists were in the order of years.
Within a few years the vast majority of A&E patients, >95% were seen, treated and discharged or admitted to a hospital bed within 4 hours. 100% of patients (except where they had exercised personal choice) were on a definitive treatment pathway within 18 weeks. Cancer waits of two weeks were the norm.
It was hard work, NHS inertia had to be overcome, but it did work. That was a legacy any government of any colour would be proud of. I'm proud to have played a small part in that.
It's broken now, many billions squandered for a worse outcome on every single metric. Is that a legacy you are prepared to endorse?
SD.
Wombat3 said:
Is really not the point. The point Is that we have upped NHS spending by 30+% IN REAL TERMS since 2010.
I realise that's an inconvenient truth for those that like to say that the Tories have cut everything, but it us what it is.
Why has NHS spending increased with a decrease in outcomes? Cut social care, cut access to mental health treatment, cut addiction services. I realise that's an inconvenient truth for those that like to say that the Tories have cut everything, but it us what it is.
Elderly patients used to be able to get a respite or care package in place in a matter of days, now it's running into weeks. Too ill or frail to go home, too well for an acute hospital bed. A prolonged period in hospital will decondition an elderly patient and make recovery longer and increases the risk of health care acquired infection.
Sort out social care and see an improvement in NHS results. Ditto with homelessness, addiction, mental health.
The party of fiscal responsibility seems to know the price of everything, but the value of nothing.
SD.
glazbagun said:
Plus Right to Buy, of course:
"The number of former council homes that are owner occupied has reduced over time. Data from 111 councils in England in 2017 revealed that over 40% of former council homes were now in the private rented sector"
https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/right-to-buy-pa...
Not part of this government's legacy. "The number of former council homes that are owner occupied has reduced over time. Data from 111 councils in England in 2017 revealed that over 40% of former council homes were now in the private rented sector"
https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/right-to-buy-pa...
What in the last half generation can this government go onto the streets and doorsteps and say "we achieved this, this is why we deserve your vote"
SD.
I'm going to bump this thread as it's likely to be the last full day before a change of government. During the campaign I have seen very little of the conservatives stating what they are proud of achieving in the last 14 years.
Is this a first? Every previous election I recall, the incumbent party was stating how they would build on their achievements.
SD.
Is this a first? Every previous election I recall, the incumbent party was stating how they would build on their achievements.
SD.
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