Your Voting Intentions Part 2.0 (End Is Nigh)

Your Voting Intentions Part 2.0 (End Is Nigh)

Poll: Your Voting Intentions Part 2.0 (End Is Nigh)

Total Members Polled: 740

Conservative: 16%
Labour: 27%
Reform: 29%
Lib Dem: 10%
Indy: 2%
Green: 2%
SNP: 1%
Not Voting for any of 'em (Stay At Home): 7%
Spoil Paper: 5%
Plaid Cymru: 1%
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119

Original Poster:

11,667 posts

51 months

Tuesday 18th June 2024
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So, with a couple of weeks or so to go, and after a few people have suggested, we now have a new poll with the same options now we are only a couple of weeks away!

Get to it!

BoomerPride

4,054 posts

272 months

Tuesday 18th June 2024
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Interesting. Though far from statistically representative yet.

Dave Hedgehog

14,920 posts

219 months

Tuesday 18th June 2024
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we are a top 20 tory safe seat, if theres a chance the libs can oust the torys they will get my vote

119

Original Poster:

11,667 posts

51 months

Tuesday 18th June 2024
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Still haven't even decided yet tbh.

The last few weeks, none of them have really been that inspiring!

S600BSB

6,589 posts

121 months

Tuesday 18th June 2024
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6,562 posts

164 months

Tuesday 18th June 2024
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Honestly...

On principle, Monster Raving Loonies. If we must have lunatics running the asylum, lets have proper lunatics do it.

But... It comes to tactical voting on the basis of who's most likely to stop Reform in my constituency.

valiant

12,254 posts

175 months

Tuesday 18th June 2024
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S600BSB said:
Man up and vote Labour - you know you want to really!
Man up and vote tactically!

I want to see the Libdems as the official opposition if nothing else than to see NP&E explode.

C’mon 119, surely for that alone it’s worth it?

Newc

2,097 posts

197 months

Tuesday 18th June 2024
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jfdi

1,199 posts

190 months

Tuesday 18th June 2024
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valiant said:
I want to see the Libdems as the official opposition if nothing else than to see NP&E explode.
That would be a party popper compared to the atomic explosion if reform became the official opposition.

S600BSB

6,589 posts

121 months

Tuesday 18th June 2024
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valiant said:
S600BSB said:
Man up and vote Labour - you know you want to really!
Man up and vote tactically!

I want to see the Libdems as the official opposition if nothing else than to see NP&E explode.

C’mon 119, surely for that alone it’s worth it?
Oh yes - fair point!

LivLL

11,588 posts

212 months

Tuesday 18th June 2024
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Rivenink

3,955 posts

121 months

Tuesday 18th June 2024
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I'm in a Labour safe seat.

I don't think I'll vote for them though.

Considering spoiling my ballot as protest, or voting Lib Dem.

119

Original Poster:

11,667 posts

51 months

Tuesday 18th June 2024
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valiant said:
S600BSB said:
Man up and vote Labour - you know you want to really!
Man up and vote tactically!

I want to see the Libdems as the official opposition if nothing else than to see NP&E explode.

C’mon 119, surely for that alone it’s worth it?
I think the real explosions would be if Reform got in.

hehe

anonymous-user

69 months

Tuesday 18th June 2024
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If we keep this up, one day reform might actually win. hehe

anonymous-user

69 months

Tuesday 18th June 2024
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SDP, still not on the list though. They're fielding a candidate where I am (Durham City) so they'll get my vote, just to get their numbers up if nothing else. It's a safe labour seat due to the massive proportion of students so I plan to vote for them so they don't get beat by the monster raving loony party again!

B'stard Child

30,238 posts

261 months

Tuesday 18th June 2024
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No change here - Big C&B making very sure none of it ends up in a box

Jamescrs

5,285 posts

80 months

Tuesday 18th June 2024
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LivLL said:
I suppose a PH politics poll is a little different to the election given the number of deviants on here who will answer only to try and skew the poll away from Labour and panic the red army prominent in the NP&E forums.

100 people so far, 4 will spoil their papers - why, what's the point?
I don't get the whole effort of spoiling a paper either, many years ago part of my work was monitoring inside a sports centre hall where votes were counted and I never saw anyone care less about a spoilt voting paper, they were simply put aside into a separate pile by the counters and no doubt filed away. No one seemed to take the time to pay any attention to what was on them other than no cross in an appropriate box

S600BSB

6,589 posts

121 months

Tuesday 18th June 2024
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Jamescrs said:
LivLL said:
I suppose a PH politics poll is a little different to the election given the number of deviants on here who will answer only to try and skew the poll away from Labour and panic the red army prominent in the NP&E forums.

100 people so far, 4 will spoil their papers - why, what's the point?
I don't get the whole effort of spoiling a paper either, many years ago part of my work was monitoring inside a sports centre hall where votes were counted and I never saw anyone care less about a spoilt voting paper, they were simply put aside into a separate pile by the counters and no doubt filed away. No one seemed to take the time to pay any attention to what was on them other than no cross in an appropriate box
Still better to spoil a paper than vote for the Cons though.

Sway

31,822 posts

209 months

Tuesday 18th June 2024
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Jamescrs said:
LivLL said:
I suppose a PH politics poll is a little different to the election given the number of deviants on here who will answer only to try and skew the poll away from Labour and panic the red army prominent in the NP&E forums.

100 people so far, 4 will spoil their papers - why, what's the point?
I don't get the whole effort of spoiling a paper either, many years ago part of my work was monitoring inside a sports centre hall where votes were counted and I never saw anyone care less about a spoilt voting paper, they were simply put aside into a separate pile by the counters and no doubt filed away. No one seemed to take the time to pay any attention to what was on them other than no cross in an appropriate box
I'm spoiling.

I've voted 'against' something twice in my life, and regretted it both times. So now, I'm only voting for positive reasons.

Except no one has presented something compelling for me to vote for.

However, there's no chance I'm not attending the voting booth - and it's not like anyone normally really cares about my individual vote - but I'll spoil so that I can at least say I've had my say in every election I've been eligible to.

Unfortunately, that 'say' is 'none of the above'.

dandarez

13,648 posts

298 months

Tuesday 18th June 2024
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S600BSB said:
Jamescrs said:
LivLL said:
I suppose a PH politics poll is a little different to the election given the number of deviants on here who will answer only to try and skew the poll away from Labour and panic the red army prominent in the NP&E forums.

100 people so far, 4 will spoil their papers - why, what's the point?
I don't get the whole effort of spoiling a paper either, many years ago part of my work was monitoring inside a sports centre hall where votes were counted and I never saw anyone care less about a spoilt voting paper, they were simply put aside into a separate pile by the counters and no doubt filed away. No one seemed to take the time to pay any attention to what was on them other than no cross in an appropriate box
Still better to spoil a paper than vote for the Cons though.
I still intend to spoil my ballot paper (first time ever that I have 'not' voted, and I've seen 'em all since Atlee!). Sadly, the 'None of the Above' petition to get this on all ballot papers earlier this year got too few people to make it an issue. Those 'in charge' don't want this to ever happen! Hence why publicity was woeful.
Can it work? Oh boy yes! In the USA it was put on a ballot paper earlier this year, and guess what? 'None of the Above' got the highest votes and won!!

'Spoilt Ballot Papers' are 'counted', hence why I am 'voting' (no way would I ever not vote - for obvious reasons).
However, the may be a fly in the ointment - I'd decided to query what really happens?
I was informed via TEC (The Electoral Commission) that the counting of a spoilt ballots is down to the Returning Officer - christ is it vague... it needs rewording/updating.

Here you go:
Spoilt or doubtful ballots
If a ballot paper is blank, spoilt, or count staff are unsure of the voter’s intention from the mark on the paper, the Returning Officer will consider it and decide if the vote is valid and should be counted, or (how handy eh?) '...if it should be rejected'.

I checked elsewhere
'Spoilt ballots are ballot papers that have been marked incorrectly, and do not indicate the voter’s intention.
For example, the voter may have voted for two candidates in an election where they can only vote for one.
Doubtful ballots are ballot papers that do not absolutely show the voter’s intention. For example, the cross [X] to mark the vote may cover two boxes.

I messaged a councillor I know - he just replied:
'Dan, if you wish, yes you can spoil your ballot, and I can reassure you that it will be COUNTED!
Even Returning Officer's 'rejecting' a ballot doesn't matter, again, it WILL BE COUNTED!'
He just sent this over to me - so yep, I'm definitely spoiling mine.






I've seen it all my life... Labour will likely romp home and in 5 yrs time (or prob less) the 'ping pong' will happen again.
For those who want 'Change', you ain't gonna get it! All you'll achieve is a change in colour like all before.
If only 'None of the above' was on ballots, eh?

Once in government they don't want to 'serve you' they all 'serve themselves'.
Yep, you can have superb 'local constituency' MPs of any flavour - take when ours was Cameron, regardless of his 'rosette colour' he was great - he held regular local surgeries, always on hand for your queries and problems, he helped my wife's family and went beyond the limits to do so, I still have all his HoC letters addressed to us over the year he helped.
Months after he became PM my wife said to me as he was appearing on TV: 'Dan, is this really the same guy who helped and assisted my mum so much? He's changed beyond all recognition.'
'Yes Minister' was hilarious, but not far off the truth.