Your Voting Intentions Part 2.0 (End Is Nigh)
Poll: Your Voting Intentions Part 2.0 (End Is Nigh)
Total Members Polled: 740
Discussion
valiant said:
S600BSB said:
Man up and vote Labour - you know you want to really!
Man up and vote tactically!I want to see the Libdems as the official opposition if nothing else than to see NP&E explode.
C’mon 119, surely for that alone it’s worth it?

SDP, still not on the list though. They're fielding a candidate where I am (Durham City) so they'll get my vote, just to get their numbers up if nothing else. It's a safe labour seat due to the massive proportion of students so I plan to vote for them so they don't get beat by the monster raving loony party again!
LivLL said:
I suppose a PH politics poll is a little different to the election given the number of deviants on here who will answer only to try and skew the poll away from Labour and panic the red army prominent in the NP&E forums.
100 people so far, 4 will spoil their papers - why, what's the point?
I don't get the whole effort of spoiling a paper either, many years ago part of my work was monitoring inside a sports centre hall where votes were counted and I never saw anyone care less about a spoilt voting paper, they were simply put aside into a separate pile by the counters and no doubt filed away. No one seemed to take the time to pay any attention to what was on them other than no cross in an appropriate box100 people so far, 4 will spoil their papers - why, what's the point?
Jamescrs said:
LivLL said:
I suppose a PH politics poll is a little different to the election given the number of deviants on here who will answer only to try and skew the poll away from Labour and panic the red army prominent in the NP&E forums.
100 people so far, 4 will spoil their papers - why, what's the point?
I don't get the whole effort of spoiling a paper either, many years ago part of my work was monitoring inside a sports centre hall where votes were counted and I never saw anyone care less about a spoilt voting paper, they were simply put aside into a separate pile by the counters and no doubt filed away. No one seemed to take the time to pay any attention to what was on them other than no cross in an appropriate box100 people so far, 4 will spoil their papers - why, what's the point?
Jamescrs said:
LivLL said:
I suppose a PH politics poll is a little different to the election given the number of deviants on here who will answer only to try and skew the poll away from Labour and panic the red army prominent in the NP&E forums.
100 people so far, 4 will spoil their papers - why, what's the point?
I don't get the whole effort of spoiling a paper either, many years ago part of my work was monitoring inside a sports centre hall where votes were counted and I never saw anyone care less about a spoilt voting paper, they were simply put aside into a separate pile by the counters and no doubt filed away. No one seemed to take the time to pay any attention to what was on them other than no cross in an appropriate box100 people so far, 4 will spoil their papers - why, what's the point?
I've voted 'against' something twice in my life, and regretted it both times. So now, I'm only voting for positive reasons.
Except no one has presented something compelling for me to vote for.
However, there's no chance I'm not attending the voting booth - and it's not like anyone normally really cares about my individual vote - but I'll spoil so that I can at least say I've had my say in every election I've been eligible to.
Unfortunately, that 'say' is 'none of the above'.
S600BSB said:
Jamescrs said:
LivLL said:
I suppose a PH politics poll is a little different to the election given the number of deviants on here who will answer only to try and skew the poll away from Labour and panic the red army prominent in the NP&E forums.
100 people so far, 4 will spoil their papers - why, what's the point?
I don't get the whole effort of spoiling a paper either, many years ago part of my work was monitoring inside a sports centre hall where votes were counted and I never saw anyone care less about a spoilt voting paper, they were simply put aside into a separate pile by the counters and no doubt filed away. No one seemed to take the time to pay any attention to what was on them other than no cross in an appropriate box100 people so far, 4 will spoil their papers - why, what's the point?
Can it work? Oh boy yes! In the USA it was put on a ballot paper earlier this year, and guess what? 'None of the Above' got the highest votes and won!!
'Spoilt Ballot Papers' are 'counted', hence why I am 'voting' (no way would I ever not vote - for obvious reasons).
However, the may be a fly in the ointment - I'd decided to query what really happens?
I was informed via TEC (The Electoral Commission) that the counting of a spoilt ballots is down to the Returning Officer - christ is it vague... it needs rewording/updating.
Here you go:
Spoilt or doubtful ballots
If a ballot paper is blank, spoilt, or count staff are unsure of the voter’s intention from the mark on the paper, the Returning Officer will consider it and decide if the vote is valid and should be counted, or (how handy eh?) '...if it should be rejected'.
I checked elsewhere
'Spoilt ballots are ballot papers that have been marked incorrectly, and do not indicate the voter’s intention.
For example, the voter may have voted for two candidates in an election where they can only vote for one.
Doubtful ballots are ballot papers that do not absolutely show the voter’s intention. For example, the cross [X] to mark the vote may cover two boxes.
I messaged a councillor I know - he just replied:
'Dan, if you wish, yes you can spoil your ballot, and I can reassure you that it will be COUNTED!
Even Returning Officer's 'rejecting' a ballot doesn't matter, again, it WILL BE COUNTED!'
He just sent this over to me - so yep, I'm definitely spoiling mine.
I've seen it all my life... Labour will likely romp home and in 5 yrs time (or prob less) the 'ping pong' will happen again.
For those who want 'Change', you ain't gonna get it! All you'll achieve is a change in colour like all before.
If only 'None of the above' was on ballots, eh?
Once in government they don't want to 'serve you' they all 'serve themselves'.
Yep, you can have superb 'local constituency' MPs of any flavour - take when ours was Cameron, regardless of his 'rosette colour' he was great - he held regular local surgeries, always on hand for your queries and problems, he helped my wife's family and went beyond the limits to do so, I still have all his HoC letters addressed to us over the year he helped.
Months after he became PM my wife said to me as he was appearing on TV: 'Dan, is this really the same guy who helped and assisted my mum so much? He's changed beyond all recognition.'
'Yes Minister' was hilarious, but not far off the truth.
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