The Daily Mail, The Guardian, what else?
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I've lead a sheltered and naive life. Of course, we all know what trite the Daily Mail is, but I've only recently been introduced to the Guardian. Similar scare tactics for a champagne left audience. Is this it in the way of dire "grown up" papers or are there others I've yet to encounter?
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Guam said:
Agreed 
They ALL have an Agenda (and always have)
For me of them all, the Times and the Independent are probably the "safest" imho.
I'm sorry, but my parents used to get the Independant when i was younger, and every front page was:
They ALL have an Agenda (and always have)
For me of them all, the Times and the Independent are probably the "safest" imho.
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They now get the Guardian, which isn't too bad, but you can feel the commie oozing out of some of the writers, especially in some of the more personal coloumns.
Brighton Derly said:
The Times and Sunday Times. Surprising balance of left and right, and despite being owned by Murdoch, he has no editorial influence over the papers - one of the conditions laid down when he bought them.
Just a shame that the quality of journalism in both these days is only a tiny step above the other chip paper.No papers are worth reading. All of them are full of mindless crap about celebrities and sensationalist rhetoric as, apparently, none of us are bright enough to understand things when presented with mere facts, or have no interest in anything other than the X Factor.
The Economist.
It's pretty much the only option. Decent rate for a subscription which gives you the print version and full use of the website. You can also download the whole thing (10s of hrs per week) as an audiobook each week, which is very slick and ideal if you're commuting.
Of course it's only weekly, but 2 articles a day and the briefings at the weekend will leave you significantly better informed about the world than any of the dailies. Otherwise I'd go with The Times when presented the selection.
It's pretty much the only option. Decent rate for a subscription which gives you the print version and full use of the website. You can also download the whole thing (10s of hrs per week) as an audiobook each week, which is very slick and ideal if you're commuting.
Of course it's only weekly, but 2 articles a day and the briefings at the weekend will leave you significantly better informed about the world than any of the dailies. Otherwise I'd go with The Times when presented the selection.
Out of all the online papers the Mail's website is probably the best. Shame it is full of rubbish.
The Times has gone downhill under Murdoch but if you ignore the blatant bias then there is a lot of solid reading in it. The only problem is whether you expect to use online papers that way or just go for healines and a little info.
Their columnists are quite off the wall sometimes and it is stunning to read them. Mind you, the same goes for all of them.
The Times has gone downhill under Murdoch but if you ignore the blatant bias then there is a lot of solid reading in it. The only problem is whether you expect to use online papers that way or just go for healines and a little info.
Their columnists are quite off the wall sometimes and it is stunning to read them. Mind you, the same goes for all of them.
anonymous said:
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Pretty much agree with this. The Indy really was very good when it launched, but has become a bit like the Morning Star's big brother. If all you want is raw news, buy the FT. When money is the question, all you want are the facts.
Personally, when I do buy a paper, its The Telegraph, partly because I don't like Murdoch so The Times is out. I also think The Spectator is very good if you want a weekly.
anonymous said:
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The FT has improved recently. They got very worried at the number of people switching to the WSJE in disgust at the left wing politics.The Telegraphs are pretty good, but I wish they'd sack Simon Heffer and Mary Riddell, a right- and a left-wing bore respectively.
I like the Guardian. I find its politics easy to filter. Once you're beyond that, the journalism is high quality. The Economist is close to unimpeachable. The Spectator I like apart from a few columnists (such as Delingpole who has turned from an interesting commentator into a caricature of himself). I also like the new Standpoint and find things to appreciate in Prospect, although it can be turgidly worthy.
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