When Peston speaks....
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Corsair7

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20,911 posts

277 months

Tuesday 5th April 2011
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He makes things just seem worse and worse.

Seems he wants to write himself into the history books as a doom merchant. If I had to live with hearing his voice every day I think I'd kill myself.

Peston - 5th horseman of the apocalypse said:
You probably don't need telling that 2011 is shaping up into the worst period for retailers since the onset of the 2008-9 Great Recession, when Woolworths and Zavvi went kaput.”

Robert Peston

Business editor, BBC News
Did he just coin the phrase 'Great Recession', or has it been in common usage before?

Hateful man.

V88Dicky

7,373 posts

213 months

Tuesday 5th April 2011
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What a nobber that man is.

Anyone would think he's talking about The Great Depression of the 1930's. He'd really have something to drip about if something like that happened again!

The tit.

Fittster

20,120 posts

243 months

Tuesday 5th April 2011
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Corsair7 said:
Did he just coin the phrase 'Great Recession', or has it been in common usage before?
From the Daily Telegraph on the 14th March 2011.

"The complex web of lending shows how hard it is to contain the problem to one country at time.
American lenders capitulated in the third quarter, slashing exposure to the four countries by 8.7pc. It is likely that US players took advantage of bond purchases by the European Central Bank to sell bonds and cut their losses.

The BIS said global cross-border lending rebounded by $650bn in the third quarter to $31 trillion, but is still far below the $36 trillion peak in the heady days before the Great Recession."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/ba...

The earliest reference I can find is from the August 2009

"The underlying story has not changed. The East-West imbalances that lay behind the Great Recession of 2008-2009 are getting worse, not better."
source

I've seen no evidence to support the idea that the media can affect the direction of the market.

Edited by Fittster on Tuesday 5th April 10:03

Bing o

15,184 posts

249 months

Tuesday 5th April 2011
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
But according to the media everyone is fked for life.
Not for life. Maybe just 2 generations.

Digga

48,425 posts

313 months

Tuesday 5th April 2011
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Bing o said:
Paddy_N_Murphy said:
But according to the media everyone is fked for life.
Not for life. Maybe just 2 generations.
Trouble is - and people forget this - the meeja got fat running ads for retailers selling st people didn;t really need and couldn't really afford. Even the Beeb rode the back of the fat propertaay hog, with viewing figures for related shows.

So people are no longer spending like mindless, frenzied morons? Good.

Move on.

Edited by Digga on Tuesday 5th April 10:35

sleep envy

62,260 posts

279 months

Tuesday 5th April 2011
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has someone been watching HIGNFY?

XJ40

5,987 posts

243 months

Tuesday 5th April 2011
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He's certainly one of a number of journo's who preach doom. I did used to read his blog and was quite into the whole "everyone is fked for life" doom thing.

I guess there's a place for some of these characters to create a balance in the media, but excessive gloom and talking everything down all the while is unproductive.

ewenm

28,506 posts

275 months

Tuesday 5th April 2011
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When the media say "Great Recession" the term "Great" is used to mean "brilliant" or "superb" - bad news sells newspapers after all, so for the media the bigger the better recession.

Fittster

20,120 posts

243 months

Tuesday 5th April 2011
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So if we don't like Peston which financial journalist do you like? I've always liked the writing of Bill Bonner.

Life Saab Itch

37,069 posts

218 months

Tuesday 5th April 2011
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It's not what he says, its hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow he says it.

punchbanghead :kill: :kill again: :kill again to make sure:

Brighton Derly

597 posts

189 months

Tuesday 5th April 2011
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ewenm said:
When the media say "Great Recession" the term "Great" is used to mean "brilliant" or "superb" - bad news sells newspapers after all, so for the media the bigger the better recession.
You couldn't be more wrong.

Advertisers cut spending by approximately 10% in the last recession - the papers don't want a repeat.

ewenm

28,506 posts

275 months

Tuesday 5th April 2011
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Brighton Derly said:
ewenm said:
When the media say "Great Recession" the term "Great" is used to mean "brilliant" or "superb" - bad news sells newspapers after all, so for the media the bigger the better recession.
You couldn't be more wrong.

Advertisers cut spending by approximately 10% in the last recession - the papers don't want a repeat.
OK, maybe my last "bigger/better" clause was a little sensationalist (learning from the media y'see), but do you really think the recession deserves the moniker "great" or it's hyperbole to sell papers?

Edited by ewenm on Tuesday 5th April 12:58

Tsippy

15,078 posts

199 months

Tuesday 5th April 2011
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Woolworths and Zavvi closed because they were st, not because of the recession.

Legend83

10,588 posts

252 months

Tuesday 5th April 2011
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He is probably about to hammer the nail in the coffin of HMV soon too....

Brighton Derly

597 posts

189 months

Tuesday 5th April 2011
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ewenm said:
OK, maybe my last "bigger/better" clause was a little sensationalist (learning from the media y'see), but do you really think the recession deserves the moniker "great" or it's hyperbole to sell papers?
Well, the recession was the worst since WWII, so yes, I would say there is some merit in giving it the moniker 'great'.

The problem is what to call the next recession if it proves to be worse than the Great Recession. The Greater Recession?

Fittster

20,120 posts

243 months

Tuesday 5th April 2011
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Brighton Derly said:
Well, the recession was the worst since WWII, so yes, I would say there is some merit in giving it the moniker 'great'.

The problem is what to call the next recession if it proves to be worse than the Great Recession. The Greater Recession?
Well the great war's follow up just got II stuck after it's name.

ewenm

28,506 posts

275 months

Tuesday 5th April 2011
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Brighton Derly said:
Well, the recession was the worst since WWII, so yes, I would say there is some merit in giving it the moniker 'great'.

The problem is what to call the next recession if it proves to be worse than the Great Recession. The Greater Recession?
Fair enough, as long as equivalent periods of growth also get labelled "great" wink

JagLover

46,814 posts

265 months

Tuesday 5th April 2011
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I would say that great recession or rather depression is entirely accurate for what the world economy has been through. We in the uk will only have got through it when interest rates and the deficit are back to normal.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

276 months

Tuesday 5th April 2011
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How Peston gets by in the world, let alone gets on in the world, is completely beyond me.

He seems to know precious little yet has the most ridiculously pompous and long-winded style of speaking. I simply don't understand how anyone is taken in by him. Completely hopeless. The guys who do the routine work on BBC News 24 are infinitely better.

john_p

7,073 posts

280 months

Tuesday 5th April 2011
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Does anyone really expect the BBC to be a meritocracy ?