Very loan start state

[lostsoixanteneuf]

With all the US debit and high oil price was wondering if Texas might leave the union? Think it still has an op out

[Mr Dave]

I wonder how many states would/could be self sufficient?

Which states put a surplus into the union and which ones get more than they contribute?

[ErnestM]

lostsoixanteneuf said:

With all the US debit and high oil price was wondering if Texas might leave the union? Think it still has an op out

Incorrect. They may have had the opt out originally, but they seceded during the civil war and lost that right when readmitted. (See Supreme Court Texas Vs White)

That being said, any State ma leave the union with the permission of all of the other States.

[ErnestM]

Mr Dave said:

I wonder how many states would/could be self sufficient?

Which states put a surplus into the union and which ones get more than they contribute?

Doesn't really work that way. Federal taxes are collected by the federal government and don't flow from the States directly.

I would imagine that if that Federal money flowed into State capitols, most States could be self sufficient (although severely limited militarily)

[Jimbeaux]

lostsoixanteneuf said:

With all the US debit and high oil price was wondering if Texas might leave the union? Think it still has an op out

Is the fact that your last two or so threads are something to do with the U.S. your attempts at a windup or do you have a fetish with us?

[Jimbeaux]

Since the vast majority of U.S. debt is owned by U.S. banks, we might stick around a bit longer.
As to oil and other natural resources, Texas is not alone as a state with such advantages.

[rog007]

California has also flirted with independence over the years, mainly due to the feeling it subsidises most of the rest of the States.

[Bing o]

rog007 said:

California has also flirted with independence over the years, mainly due to the feeling it subsidises most of the rest of the States.

I doubt that that is the case right now...

[louiebaby]

rog007 said:

California has also flirted with independence over the years, mainly due to the feeling it subsidises most of the rest of the States.

I did hear somewhere that California would be about number 5 in the world for the size of it's economy if it was separated from the USA. It might have changed a bit over the last few years, but it is still a big economy by any measure.

And it's "Loan Star State." You plum.

[DocJock]

louiebaby said:

And it's "Loan Star State." You plum.

Isn't irony wonderful?

[The Hypno-Toad]

This idea has been gently floated on Fox News a couple of times, usually by ex-governers and state officials and usually on the back of "not supporting those Kansas City faggots and Prius driving lefties over in California who couldn't balance their budget and now want us to bail out their godless, lily livered asses,".

Doesn't seem to have gone much further than that but I'm sure it might be mentioned again.

[Jimbeaux]

DocJock said:

louiebaby said:

And it's "Loan Star State." You plum.

Isn't irony wonderful?

A bit O/T but there is a history behind the Lone Star flag, as in all state flags. Clever word play BTW.

Edited by Jimbeaux on Tuesday 1st March 12:25

[louiebaby]

DocJock said:

Isn't irony wonderful?

Aaah shoite.

[Jimbeaux]

anonymous said:

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In summary, I think you about covered it; yes.

[Jimbeaux]

anonymous said:

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[ErnestM]

anonymous said:

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Prior to oil you were either a rich Texas cattle baron or a serf. The reason why so many early oil moguls looked, acted and dressed like cowboys is because they were cowboys. They owned the land.

[elster]

anonymous said:

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You sound a blast at tourist hot spots. I think you could quite happily make a TV series on such comments.

A bit like the Idiot thing with Karl Pilkington.

[Jimbeaux]

anonymous said:

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They didn't?

[lostsoixanteneuf]

ErnestM said:

Incorrect. They may have had the opt out originally, but they seceded during the civil war and lost that right when readmitted. (See Supreme Court Texas Vs White)

That being said, any State ma leave the union with the permission of all of the other States.

Any state can leave the union if all the rest agree hmmm can they vote a state out if they all wanted to? If so who do you think would be the first to go?

[ErnestM]

lostsoixanteneuf said:

Any state can leave the union if all the rest agree hmmm can they vote a state out if they all wanted to? If so who do you think would be the first to go?

The State would have to petition. It's not like "Survivor". I don't think anyone would be voted out. Despite the p!ss taking that goes on between the States, I don't think that anyone would really want to see any State leave... (not to mention that the landlocked ones would have a hard time surviving)