One million public sector jobs to go
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"Cuba has announced radical plans to lay off huge numbers of state employees, to help revive the communist country's struggling economy.
The Cuban labour federation said more than a million workers would lose their jobs - half of them by March next year.
Those laid off will be encouraged to become self-employed or join new private enterprises, on which some of the current restrictions will be eased.
It is biggest shift to the private sector since the revolution in 1959"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-1129...
If the Cubans get it you'd think the lefties in the UK would.
The Cuban labour federation said more than a million workers would lose their jobs - half of them by March next year.
Those laid off will be encouraged to become self-employed or join new private enterprises, on which some of the current restrictions will be eased.
It is biggest shift to the private sector since the revolution in 1959"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-1129...
If the Cubans get it you'd think the lefties in the UK would.
Finally, the penny drops - you have a very great number of public sector employees and you eventually go bust. A shame Labour (and the unions) still don't understand. http://www.debtbombshell.com/
On another thread, someone rightly points out the analogy that every business needs 'admin' and also 'sales'. If we assume an economy is the same, then obviously 100% sales would lead to problems as would 100% admin - don't these muppets see this?
A happy balance is a must and in teh UK we obviously dont have that - as Cuba has realised also...
A happy balance is a must and in teh UK we obviously dont have that - as Cuba has realised also...
I work in the public sector and I understand the logic behind the cuts. Infact, rightly or wrongly, I voted for them.
However the people who are deciding where the cuts fall are typically the same poor performing upper management types who have led us into this ridiculous situation in the first place.
I have genuine concerns about frontline services due to the lack competence of the person wielding the axe. I cannot be the only one.
However the people who are deciding where the cuts fall are typically the same poor performing upper management types who have led us into this ridiculous situation in the first place.
I have genuine concerns about frontline services due to the lack competence of the person wielding the axe. I cannot be the only one.
CzechItOut said:
Where does Cuba get its money from?
It doesn't really have any but it gets some from tourism, cigars, rum, bananas, coffee, music, and posters of Che Gavarra,I was reading on a Porsche forum somwhere that there are three Porsches registered in Cuba. One belongs to a consultant surgeon who gets paid the princely sum of $3,000 US per year. Not sure how he manages to run a Porker on that.
G_T said:
I work in the public sector and I understand the logic behind the cuts. Infact, rightly or wrongly, I voted for them.
However the people who are deciding where the cuts fall are typically the same poor performing upper management types who have led us into this ridiculous situation in the first place.
I have genuine concerns about frontline services due to the lack competence of the person wielding the axe. I cannot be the only one.
No, you are not. I also work in the public sector and am self employed. I voted for these cuts indirectly. I am worried that those in charge of making the cuts won't make the right calls.However the people who are deciding where the cuts fall are typically the same poor performing upper management types who have led us into this ridiculous situation in the first place.
I have genuine concerns about frontline services due to the lack competence of the person wielding the axe. I cannot be the only one.
Many of my friends and colleagues are anti-cuts and anti-coalition. I don't know where they think the money is going to come from. They will make the link in their heads that coalition = cuts and the "I hate the Tories" theme will perpetuate.
I have to belong to my professional union and it makes me sick to the stomach when I read some of the crap in the rag, especially as my subs are supporting it, but I don't have a choice. They are, in theory, fighting my professional corner which is a good thing, but they are living in cloud cuckoo land if they think the cuts don't need to happen.
I just hope they manage to make the cuts through wastage, benefits abuse, and unnecessary middle management council jobs and the like. I fear that the things close to my heart (education and the arts - which I know receives short shrift on here!) will suffer, as many of the upper echelons don't appreciate fully the effect these have on futures and quality of life...
I think a good point has been raised on the post above about who is deciding where, what and who to cut.
I believe that pretty much most people (with some common sense) agree that there is plenty of waste in many of the public sector (or ex) companies. Generally perpetuated by Unions and old fashioned working practices.
I, for one, dont believe that an upper middle manager is ever going to cut his own department or direct reports to the extent that he effectively makes himself redundant. Thes etype of people (and there are plenty in teh private sector as well) would never do anythign for the 'greater good' if it didnt directly further their own little fiefdoms!
I believe that pretty much most people (with some common sense) agree that there is plenty of waste in many of the public sector (or ex) companies. Generally perpetuated by Unions and old fashioned working practices.
I, for one, dont believe that an upper middle manager is ever going to cut his own department or direct reports to the extent that he effectively makes himself redundant. Thes etype of people (and there are plenty in teh private sector as well) would never do anythign for the 'greater good' if it didnt directly further their own little fiefdoms!
One of the big problems with the public sector seems to be that the amount of work they do increases with the number of positions filled, however the value of these jobs is quite small. ie there are a number of people who collate figures for ethnicity, age, sex etc just to make sure that all the various quotas are met, but the figures themselves add nothing to the public sector.
Fittster said:
"Cuba has announced radical plans to lay off huge numbers of state employees, to help revive the communist country's struggling economy.
The Cuban labour federation said more than a million workers would lose their jobs - half of them by March next year.
Those laid off will be encouraged to become self-employed or join new private enterprises, on which some of the current restrictions will be eased.
It is biggest shift to the private sector since the revolution in 1959"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-1129...
If the Cubans get it you'd think the lefties in the UK would.
Great point.The Cuban labour federation said more than a million workers would lose their jobs - half of them by March next year.
Those laid off will be encouraged to become self-employed or join new private enterprises, on which some of the current restrictions will be eased.
It is biggest shift to the private sector since the revolution in 1959"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-1129...
If the Cubans get it you'd think the lefties in the UK would.
CzechItOut said:
Where does Cuba get its money from?
Cuba has some trade with various nations including some U.S. states. Sugar is a huge import for them from us, whereas coffee, cigars, etc. is an export to certain places. What many do not realize is that U.S. Dollars from expatriates in Florida account for huge cash flows in Cuba. Although technically illegal, it is allowed as it is neccessary for the country to function.Edited by Jimbeaux on Tuesday 14th September 18:59
G_T said:
I work in the public sector and I understand the logic behind the cuts. Infact, rightly or wrongly, I voted for them.
However the people who are deciding where the cuts fall are typically the same poor performing upper management types who have led us into this ridiculous situation in the first place.
I have genuine concerns about frontline services due to the lack competence of the person wielding the axe. I cannot be the only one.
A good point and one I have raised a number of times as soon as the cuts were announced. It is pretty clear to me that the government will get the blame from the usual whining leftie areas ..."hurting the vunerable, the poor and needy..." etc etc and other pathetic (and untrue) statements. The left know damn well that the coalition will give government departments a command to make cuts and that the people making the cuts in those department won't cut their own middle and senior management cushy overpaid and underworked areas, they'll try to cut the front line so that the most visible effect of the cuts can be blamed on the government, thus furnishing the left with their argument.However the people who are deciding where the cuts fall are typically the same poor performing upper management types who have led us into this ridiculous situation in the first place.
I have genuine concerns about frontline services due to the lack competence of the person wielding the axe. I cannot be the only one.
The government ought to be wary of this and appoint a totally independent public sector axe man so that the correct areas may be cut, not those chosen by the underworked and overpaid middle and senior management.
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