Pope's visit - are people saying anything positive at all?
Pope's visit - are people saying anything positive at all?
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drivin_me_nuts

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17,949 posts

241 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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So the top banana's visit is pretty imminent now. Pretty much everything i've heard about his visit recently has been in the negative; from the cost, to talk of his conservatism, to protecting 'his' church above the needs of those his priests have abused.

Has anyone actually said anything positive about his visit?

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

285 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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No...

Waste of time and resources.

He's the insignificant head of a pointless "State"

I have to admit, though, he's good comedy value...



...Feck Arse Drenk Gerls..

Sums up the whole sorry circus.

Edited by mybrainhurts on Monday 13th September 13:54

pano amo

814 posts

266 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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Not sure if anyone else is saying anything positive but the fact he is coming here bearing in mind he's going to get grief from many sides is brave. He obviously wants to confront the controversies surrounding him and his church.
Lets see what he has to say first. I hope we show him some respect and not turn it into a pie-flinging contest.

Eric Mc

125,743 posts

295 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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It's the UK. No one is ever positive about anything.

Busa_Rush

6,930 posts

281 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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He's always been a target for the nutters, the people who hate Catholicism, anybody who has a grudge against the church or just hates it. The BBC have even asked Peter Tatchell (the nasty, venomous, evil so called gay rights campaigner) to write and present a show about the Pope . . . which is a bit like asking Tony Woodley to present "This is your life" with Willy Walsh as the guest.

Ignore the Pope and his visit this time, nothing worth reading will be published.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

263 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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MI5 are able to get a better handle on who the real nut jobs routing for that particular sky dweller are?

And before I get told to say 3 Hail Mary's I men the nut jobs, not the normal Catholic church goers, but the UK's version of the would-be Koran burners.

I don’t have a problem with it at all. Indeed even as a non believer if it were going on on my doorstep I might be tempted to have a gander. I mean it's not every day you get to see a real life Nazi and child abuse apologist pontiff paraded about the streets in the back of a carriage these days.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

263 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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Eric Mc said:
It's the UK. No one is ever positive about anything.
I wouldn't say that. It's more the problem that when we are positive about something we are told by others that we shouldn't be.

plasticpig

12,932 posts

255 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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The Catholic Herald has said plenty of positive things apparently....

Eric Mc

125,743 posts

295 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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Rude-boy said:
Eric Mc said:
It's the UK. No one is ever positive about anything.
I wouldn't say that. It's more the problem that when we are positive about something we are told by others that we shouldn't be.
Do you care what other people tell you to think? I don't.

But I do care about the overall atmosphere of negativity that emanates from our media.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

285 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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pano amo said:
I hope we show him some respect
I keep hearing this. Why does he deserve respect?

ewenm

28,506 posts

275 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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OP - are you basing this on the mainstream media? If so, it's hardly surprising, positivity and good news rarely result in big sales. Controversy and sensationalism are much better. I've no idea of the split of people supporting the Pope's visit and those against it, but would be very surprised if the mainstream media did anything but emphasise the negative aspects.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

263 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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Eric Mc said:
Rude-boy said:
Eric Mc said:
It's the UK. No one is ever positive about anything.
I wouldn't say that. It's more the problem that when we are positive about something we are told by others that we shouldn't be.
Do you care what other people tell you to think? I don't.

But I do care about the overall atmosphere of negativity that emanates from our media.
I don't care what others think, so much as have due regard to it.

I care more, as I suspect you do, about the fact we have a media who try to make the news rather than do their blinking job of just reporting it...

jeff m

4,066 posts

288 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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He is the CEO of a significant financial enterprise with franchises all over the world.
I beleive his current agenda is to get choirs included into the Olympics.

pano amo

814 posts

266 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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mybrainhurts said:
pano amo said:
I hope we show him some respect
I keep hearing this. Why does he deserve respect?
Because we just end up looking like a petty immature excuse for a country otherwise. There's been a lot of flak thrown his way. Its may well be deserved but I would REALLY like to hear what he has to say first. All I (and everyone else) have been hearing is the media ranting on about him. So lets give him the opportunity to speak.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

285 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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pano amo said:
mybrainhurts said:
pano amo said:
I hope we show him some respect
I keep hearing this. Why does he deserve respect?
Because we just end up looking like a petty immature excuse for a country otherwise. There's been a lot of flak thrown his way. Its may well be deserved but I would REALLY like to hear what he has to say first. All I (and everyone else) have been hearing is the media ranting on about him. So lets give him the opportunity to speak.
Why...? He's the manager of a big club. He can talk to his club from home. Why do we have to entertain him and why do we need to listen to anything he has to say?

pano amo

814 posts

266 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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mybrainhurts said:
pano amo said:
mybrainhurts said:
pano amo said:
I hope we show him some respect
I keep hearing this. Why does he deserve respect?
Because we just end up looking like a petty immature excuse for a country otherwise. There's been a lot of flak thrown his way. Its may well be deserved but I would REALLY like to hear what he has to say first. All I (and everyone else) have been hearing is the media ranting on about him. So lets give him the opportunity to speak.
Why...? He's the manager of a big club. He can talk to his club from home. Why do we have to entertain him and why do we need to listen to anything he has to say?
q.e.d rolleyes

paulrockliffe

16,600 posts

257 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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Read this in The Independent a few days ago:

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/faith/the-pop...

Found it quite interesting.

Is The Independent an acceptable tome on Piston Heads, it rarely gets a mention?

Eric Mc

125,743 posts

295 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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mybrainhurts said:
pano amo said:
mybrainhurts said:
pano amo said:
I hope we show him some respect
I keep hearing this. Why does he deserve respect?
Because we just end up looking like a petty immature excuse for a country otherwise. There's been a lot of flak thrown his way. Its may well be deserved but I would REALLY like to hear what he has to say first. All I (and everyone else) have been hearing is the media ranting on about him. So lets give him the opportunity to speak.
Why...? He's the manager of a big club. He can talk to his club from home. Why do we have to entertain him and why do we need to listen to anything he has to say?
As well as being head of a church, he's also a Head of State (just like the Queen) and is here on a State Visit. So, on that basis, he deserves the same respect as any other head of state on a state visit.

For my part, I'll be ignoring him as I did when his predecessor visited Ireland in 1979 and the UK in 1982.

NiceCupOfTea

25,595 posts

281 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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drivin_me_nuts said:
So the top banana's visit is pretty imminent now. Pretty much everything i've heard about his visit recently has been in the negative; from the cost, to talk of his conservatism, to protecting 'his' church above the needs of those his priests have abused.

Has anyone actually said anything positive about his visit?
Plenty of HIV "positives" in Africa that could have been avoided if he'd said it was OK to wrap it up...

Uhura fighter

7,018 posts

213 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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Eric Mc said:
he's also a Head of State (just like the Queen) and is here on a State Visit. So, on that basis, he deserves the same respect as any other head of state on a state visit.

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robert mugabe?

People have the right to protest, I hope they do, I do hope they do it with respect though.