It's Michael O'Leary time...again.

[Langweilig]

From AOL News.

http://news.aol.co.uk/uk-news/story/ryanair-boss-b...

[Deva Link]

Surely it would be better if the hostess flew the plane, and then she could call the pilot through in an emergency?

[petemurphy]

people still use AOL jesus!

[spikeyhead]

I don't think anyone, ever, has been better at getting free publicity than that jumped up firking leprechaun.

[smartie]

looking at the BA situation, wouldn't it actually be cheaper to train pilots to dish the cups of tea out?

[MonkeyHanger]

A RyanAir flight, some time in the near future...

[Sheets Tabuer]

He annoys the crap out of me, he thinks I assume if someone is paid 30k he can pay them 20k or someone else will want the job, he seems to place no value on skill and thinks if someone will do it cheaper why the hell should you pay more.

[anonymous-user]

Sheets Tabuer said:

He annoys the crap out of me, he thinks I assume if someone is paid 30k he can pay them 20k or someone else will want the job, he seems to place no value on skill and thinks if someone will do it cheaper why the hell should you pay more.

He only does it because his employees accept those terms and conditions in the first place.

People go there 'for a few years' and think they'll move on to someone better. The trouble is all the better airlines are saying - if people work for ryanair for 'x' why are we paying our employees this much, giving them private health, staff travel, good pensions, uniforms, respect etc etc. . . . and down we all go.

[turbobloke]

There are female cabin crew who are already familiar with flight deck procedures.

NSFW

[Hedders]

Surely it's only a metter of time before commercial aircraft are flown totally by computer anyway?

[anonymous-user]

Hedders said:

Surely it's only a metter of time before commercial aircraft are flown totally by computer anyway?

Surely it's "only a matter of time" before we can go to Saturn on holiday?

[Lucas CAV]

Hedders said:

Surely it's only a metter of time before commercial aircraft are flown totally by computer anyway?

with no pilot on board?

would you fly on it?

[Hedders]

Lucas CAV said:

Hedders said:

Surely it's only a metter of time before commercial aircraft are flown totally by computer anyway?

with no pilot on board?

would you fly on it?

sure, planes crash anyway. So long as the risks stayed about the same or better than i don't see an issue.

[Lucas CAV]

Hedders said:

Lucas CAV said:

Hedders said:

Surely it's only a metter of time before commercial aircraft are flown totally by computer anyway?

with no pilot on board?

would you fly on it?

sure, planes crash anyway. So long as the risks stayed about the same or better than i don't see an issue.

I presume you are joking.

However - I would not get on any plane without a pilot...

I don't care how good your computer is!

[Hedders]

Lucas CAV said:

Hedders said:

Lucas CAV said:

Hedders said:

Surely it's only a metter of time before commercial aircraft are flown totally by computer anyway?

with no pilot on board?

would you fly on it?

sure, planes crash anyway. So long as the risks stayed about the same or better than i don't see an issue.

I presume you are joking.

However - I would not get on any plane without a pilot...

I don't care how good your computer is!

Not joking

There are driverless trains already, it is just a metter of time before the ideao of humans being at the controls of public transport will seem ridiculous.

[Deva Link]

el stovey said:

Sheets Tabuer said:

He annoys the crap out of me, he thinks I assume if someone is paid 30k he can pay them 20k or someone else will want the job, he seems to place no value on skill and thinks if someone will do it cheaper why the hell should you pay more.

He only does it because his employees accept those terms and conditions in the first place.

People go there 'for a few years' and think they'll move on to someone better. The trouble is all the better airlines are saying - if people work for ryanair for 'x' why are we paying our employees this much, giving them private health, staff travel, good pensions, uniforms, respect etc etc. . . . and down we all go.

That's exactly the argument which has been used against the BA staff.

Smashing - let's have everyone working for minimum wage. And O'Leary probably thinks that's set a bit high.

[turbobloke]

Deva Link said:

el stovey said:

Sheets Tabuer said:

He annoys the crap out of me, he thinks I assume if someone is paid 30k he can pay them 20k or someone else will want the job, he seems to place no value on skill and thinks if someone will do it cheaper why the hell should you pay more.

He only does it because his employees accept those terms and conditions in the first place.

People go there 'for a few years' and think they'll move on to someone better. The trouble is all the better airlines are saying - if people work for ryanair for 'x' why are we paying our employees this much, giving them private health, staff travel, good pensions, uniforms, respect etc etc. . . . and down we all go.

That's exactly the argument which has been used against the BA staff.

Smashing - let's have everyone working for minimum wage. And O'Leary probably thinks that's set a bit high.

Aside from what Oh Really thinks, there's an alternative for 'everyone' if employment is no longer to taste - set up an enterprise, get customers, and pay your staff....whatever they will accept, or more if you're feeling generous. It's so easy.

[anonymous-user]

Hedders said:

Lucas CAV said:

Hedders said:

Lucas CAV said:

Hedders said:

Surely it's only a metter of time before commercial aircraft are flown totally by computer anyway?

with no pilot on board?

would you fly on it?

sure, planes crash anyway. So long as the risks stayed about the same or better than i don't see an issue.

I presume you are joking.

However - I would not get on any plane without a pilot...

I don't care how good your computer is!

Not joking

There are driverless trains already, it is just a metter of time before the ideao of humans being at the controls of public transport will seem ridiculous.

Train engine stops = train grinds to a halt.
Aeroplane engine stops = plane falls out of the sky.

How do you expect this "computer" will deal with windshear, icing up instruments, thunderstorms, avoiding light aircraft, computer failures, auto pilot failures, air traffic control mistakes, not landing and taking off when the weather is unsuitable, lightning strikes etc etc etc

A computer controlled train can simply be stopped if it goes wrong, on an aeroplane it's quite different.

The "metter of time" you talk about is not a few years but many many decades away.

[Hedders]

el stovey said:

The "metter of time" you talk about is not a few years but many many decades away.

I do not disagree, i am just saying that things change and one day we (or our kids) will accept that planes do not need pilots.

[carmonk]

Hedders said:

Surely it's only a metter of time before commercial aircraft are flown totally by computer anyway?

Yep, about 100 years I'd say.