EA Games A Game Too Real?
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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20100822/ttc-fox-urges...
Bit too real or just a video game?
The News said:
Defence Secretary Liam Fox has urged shops to ban a computer game where players can act as the Taliban and kill British troops.
Dr Fox said he was "disgusted" that Medal of Honor allowed people to recreate attacks on Nato forces.
An updated version of the popular game, due to be released in October, is based on the struggle between allied special forces and the Taliban - with players being allowed to choose which side they want to represent.
A clip on the YouTube website shows a Taliban soldier fighting in southern Helmand province, where UK forces are based.
Gamers are apparently instructed to stop the coalition "at all costs", and receive points for every allied troop they kill.
Dr Fox said: "It's shocking that someone would think it acceptable to recreate the acts of the Taliban. At the hands of the Taliban, children have lost fathers and wives have lost husbands
Ignoring the goverment stepping in on this one for a moment and focusing on the game itself, is it cutting a little close to the bone? I mean NATO and the Taliban are still fighting in the Middle East and at least when they released Battlefield 2 they were called the imaginary MEC. Dr Fox said he was "disgusted" that Medal of Honor allowed people to recreate attacks on Nato forces.
An updated version of the popular game, due to be released in October, is based on the struggle between allied special forces and the Taliban - with players being allowed to choose which side they want to represent.
A clip on the YouTube website shows a Taliban soldier fighting in southern Helmand province, where UK forces are based.
Gamers are apparently instructed to stop the coalition "at all costs", and receive points for every allied troop they kill.
Dr Fox said: "It's shocking that someone would think it acceptable to recreate the acts of the Taliban. At the hands of the Taliban, children have lost fathers and wives have lost husbands
Bit too real or just a video game?
king computer game, it bears NO relevance to real life and even the most realistic are not even remotley violent.Just a video game. He's objecting to the name, not the fact you shoot people in the face for fun.
Counter-Strike to name just one game has been doing the you are a terrorist thing for years. Just because these are called taliban rather than the teliban from genristan does it make a difference?
Counter-Strike to name just one game has been doing the you are a terrorist thing for years. Just because these are called taliban rather than the teliban from genristan does it make a difference?
I'd like to point out I'm fairly neutral here, I'm a big gamer having recently brushed of BF2 and enjoying it greatly and it's just a game and most of us are fairly good at seeing the difference. On the other hand I was just wondering if perhaps they'd stepped over a line or not? I mean is there really a need to model it specifically on current fighting forces? Meh.
I suppose it depends how it's implemented. It's not like I actually care which side I'm on in BF2 or BF1942, and in the BF2 servers, you automatically change sides at the end of each round, anyway.
That said, as MEC, I have been known to shout "SILENCE! I KILL YOU!" after killing a US soldier.
I can also see that an outsider to computer games might think it's inappropriate because the war is still going. I would, however, be very surprised if either side bunnyhopped and dolphin dived as part of their combat techniques...
That said, as MEC, I have been known to shout "SILENCE! I KILL YOU!" after killing a US soldier.
I can also see that an outsider to computer games might think it's inappropriate because the war is still going. I would, however, be very surprised if either side bunnyhopped and dolphin dived as part of their combat techniques...
Edited by ShadownINja on Monday 23 August 00:09
okgo said:
Why not?
They've done every other concept well and truly to death, might as well mix it up slightly.
Every concept?They've done every other concept well and truly to death, might as well mix it up slightly.
How about EA Games releasing - "Concentration Camp Guard - The Game", a mix of strategy, torture and genocide.
Of course you could balance it out and have the option to play a Jew or a gay etc and try the more stealth approach aspects of the game.
thehawk said:
okgo said:
Why not?
They've done every other concept well and truly to death, might as well mix it up slightly.
Every concept?They've done every other concept well and truly to death, might as well mix it up slightly.
How about EA Games releasing - "Concentration Camp Guard - The Game", a mix of strategy, torture and genocide.
Of course you could balance it out and have the option to play a Jew or a gay etc and try the more stealth approach aspects of the game.
okgo said:
thehawk said:
okgo said:
Why not?
They've done every other concept well and truly to death, might as well mix it up slightly.
Every concept?They've done every other concept well and truly to death, might as well mix it up slightly.
How about EA Games releasing - "Concentration Camp Guard - The Game", a mix of strategy, torture and genocide.
Of course you could balance it out and have the option to play a Jew or a gay etc and try the more stealth approach aspects of the game.
thehawk said:
okgo said:
Why not?
They've done every other concept well and truly to death, might as well mix it up slightly.
Every concept?They've done every other concept well and truly to death, might as well mix it up slightly.
How about EA Games releasing - "Concentration Camp Guard - The Game", a mix of strategy, torture and genocide.
Of course you could balance it out and have the option to play a Jew or a gay etc and try the more stealth approach aspects of the game.
Or Suicide Bomber - London Edition. Try to blow up as many commuters as possible. Build up a bomb factory in an allotted time with a set amount of money while recruiting bombers. Strategically control your team of bombers to gain information on timetables, footfall sizes through various public venues, then launch the final attack, by-passing patrolling Met police. Also play as Met detectives to sniff out potential suicide bombers while they are scouting the area and in the final attack.
Negative Creep said:
okgo said:
thehawk said:
okgo said:
Why not?
They've done every other concept well and truly to death, might as well mix it up slightly.
Every concept?They've done every other concept well and truly to death, might as well mix it up slightly.
How about EA Games releasing - "Concentration Camp Guard - The Game", a mix of strategy, torture and genocide.
Of course you could balance it out and have the option to play a Jew or a gay etc and try the more stealth approach aspects of the game.
Take a lot of this 'news' with a pinch of salt. Medal of Honor has a lot to prove and as a franchise, it has to compete against the mighty Call of Duty - so a bit of PR (good or bad) is never going to be a bad thing. Could its release be due in October? Could this be the start of a campaign to shock, worry and drum up interest? Surely not....
Also, please note that the single biggest market for these games (and CoD) is the US and as a result they cannot and will not jeapodise their $10m's investment by making it an outrageous came. Taken out of context I am sure its likely to shock, but put it into context of the game, situation and circumstances I am sure its fine. CoD did something similar with the terrorist / airport thing - but this was part of a bigger moral compass / judgement thing that was going on with the game that forced you to make some pretty gut wrenching decisions - which had an impact later in the game. Its all quite clever, but again, taken out of context and it could be seen as promoting terrorism..
Pinch of salt I am afraid.
Also, please note that the single biggest market for these games (and CoD) is the US and as a result they cannot and will not jeapodise their $10m's investment by making it an outrageous came. Taken out of context I am sure its likely to shock, but put it into context of the game, situation and circumstances I am sure its fine. CoD did something similar with the terrorist / airport thing - but this was part of a bigger moral compass / judgement thing that was going on with the game that forced you to make some pretty gut wrenching decisions - which had an impact later in the game. Its all quite clever, but again, taken out of context and it could be seen as promoting terrorism..
Pinch of salt I am afraid.
okgo said:
Medal of Honour has a lot to prove?
MOHAA is probably one of the biggest online games of all time, and it will be being played for years to come.
Too right it has a lot to prove. They havent had a premium release on a core console for years, supporting other platforms such as the PSP and Wii instead, which have never been big or strong sellers for them (and in most cases they have outsourced the development anyway). MoH has a lot to prove against the current leaders such as CoD. MoHAA was released 8 years ago? It was popular at the time, but trust me, I think CoD is way bigger these days. MoHAA may still be played to this day (and thats fine) but where is the revenue for this? MoH has not been a money spinner for a while and as a result this new game needs to be a success. MOHAA is probably one of the biggest online games of all time, and it will be being played for years to come.
Don't get me wrong, asa gamer I couldn't care less if the characters in the game represent actual individuals killed in the conflict being represented. But the point is, why do the developers NEED to depict a conflict that is currently ongoing and therefore politically sensitive? If it doesn't matter to gamers, why not make everyone happy and change to a less sensitive topic? The answer is of course that the publishers are deliberately setting out to offend for PR purposes. Which is just crass.
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