Talking of saving public spending. C4 £100 billion now?!
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grumbledoak said:
Yes. And the massive undercurrent of 'entitlement' is pissing me off more than a little. Not to mention 'get those rich bankers'. It may as well have been a BBC production.
Blame the equality myth.With the opportunity for equality comes the expectation of entitlement to achieve it without actually working for it.
It's one of Labour's most poisonous legacies.
grumbledoak said:
And, surprise surprise, the public sector non jobbers don't want a pay cut.
ETA- and the road charging vote went on during the adverts. Tossers. These people should be rounded up and put in a field.
They wouldn't know what a field was, they've only ever been further than the suburbs to catch a plane (carbon offset... not, other people shouldn't fly).ETA- and the road charging vote went on during the adverts. Tossers. These people should be rounded up and put in a field.
Edited by grumbledoak on Monday 21st June 20:43
k off 
I wouldn't mind £10 to see the GP. It would stop a lot of the time wasting that goes on, and make people think about their health a bit. The NHS is a dreadful mess, and privatisation would at least offer some hope of change. It certainly isn't going to happen while the NHS comprises some 2M Labour voters.
Oddly enough a tenner to see my doctor doesn't seem that bad, I mean I see my doctor very rarely, and if it meant people didn't miss appointments and I could see my doctor alot sooner when I need to, then I'd consider it. I pay the dentist £15 a month!
Although the private health guy now on championing private health, is vested interest, allegedly cheaper health care, by introducing a private sector profit motive. USA! Health tourism got an interesting reaction!
Although the private health guy now on championing private health, is vested interest, allegedly cheaper health care, by introducing a private sector profit motive. USA! Health tourism got an interesting reaction!
Edited by Northern Munkee on Monday 21st June 20:58
grumbledoak said:
I wouldn't mind £10 to see the GP. It would stop a lot of the time wasting that goes on, and make people think about their health a bit. The NHS is a dreadful mess, and privatisation would at least offer some hope of change. It certainly isn't going to happen while the NHS comprises some 2M Labour voters.
I would support it, but only if everyone had to pay it. Not discriminated across tax bands and other such twaddle.grumbledoak said:
I wouldn't mind £10 to see the GP. It would stop a lot of the time wasting that goes on, and make people think about their health a bit. The NHS is a dreadful mess, and privatisation would at least offer some hope of change. It certainly isn't going to happen while the NHS comprises some 2M Labour voters.
I know some chav underclass scum types, (Ive got used to saying that recently), they spend an INORDINATE amount of time at the docs/ hospital, sort of a hobby, attention seeking entitlement syndrome, they dont pay so why care?. Northern Munkee said:
Oddly enough a tenner to see my doctor doesn't seem that bad, I mean I see my doctor very rarely, and if it meant people didn't miss appointments and I could see my doctor alot sooner when I need to, then I'd consider it. I pay the dentist £15 a month!
Although the private health guy now on championing private health, is vested interest, allegedly cheaper health care, by introducing a private sector profit motive. USA! Health tourism got an interesting reaction!
All the guardians booed when health tourism was mentioned, its human rights innit, they are a bunch of morons they cant even make a list of things to cut but they embrace foreigners using our NHS. f***tards.Although the private health guy now on championing private health, is vested interest, allegedly cheaper health care, by introducing a private sector profit motive. USA! Health tourism got an interesting reaction!
Edited by Northern Munkee on Monday 21st June 20:58
It's odd.
I'm working up in West Yorkshire for a week - and I cannot watch the local news on tv in the evenings anymore. Tv will get broken.
There is this under current of "victim" and "entitlement" in the articles, especially the ones revolving around cuts.
For instance, one was a centre for coffin dodgers to meet up and socialise. Apparently their funding has been axed. And a very nice northern lady - the organiser - came on screen and said "they better not cut our funding or there will be trouble". Now, accounting for the fact that petrol is so expensive that I doubt the blue rinse could get to London, and doubting that batteries in their buggies will get them to the M1 let alone down it, I did feel it was an odd threat "there will be trouble".
Had it not occured to these people that if they wanted to socialise, they could maybe visit each other? You know, in their own homes for instance? They all have carers, so why not make use of them, or let the youngest fogey make tea.
And the organiser - why couldn't she get a proper job. One to do with wealth creation, rather than council spend?
But these articles are all about entitlement. Everyone is owed. Everyone is a victim.
And above all, the undercurrent that they were helpless....
I'm working up in West Yorkshire for a week - and I cannot watch the local news on tv in the evenings anymore. Tv will get broken.
There is this under current of "victim" and "entitlement" in the articles, especially the ones revolving around cuts.
For instance, one was a centre for coffin dodgers to meet up and socialise. Apparently their funding has been axed. And a very nice northern lady - the organiser - came on screen and said "they better not cut our funding or there will be trouble". Now, accounting for the fact that petrol is so expensive that I doubt the blue rinse could get to London, and doubting that batteries in their buggies will get them to the M1 let alone down it, I did feel it was an odd threat "there will be trouble".
Had it not occured to these people that if they wanted to socialise, they could maybe visit each other? You know, in their own homes for instance? They all have carers, so why not make use of them, or let the youngest fogey make tea.
And the organiser - why couldn't she get a proper job. One to do with wealth creation, rather than council spend?
But these articles are all about entitlement. Everyone is owed. Everyone is a victim.
And above all, the undercurrent that they were helpless....
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