Eurovision 2010
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colonel c

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8,054 posts

269 months

Sunday 30th May 2010
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Well done Josh Dubovie. Making sure we don't have to foot the bill for hosting Eurovision 2011.

xr287

875 posts

210 months

Sunday 30th May 2010
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Seconded. His small act of national patriotism will not be forgotten.

Jasandjules

72,616 posts

259 months

Sunday 30th May 2010
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You see, it has major benefits - being hated by the Europeans.

But anyways, I actually only saw a few minutes of it, but really liked the Belgian entry.

colonel c

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8,054 posts

269 months

Sunday 30th May 2010
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Jasandjules said:
You see, it has major benefits - being hated by the Europeans.

But anyways, I actually only saw a few minutes of it, but really liked the Belgian entry.
I didn't even realise it was taking place until I accidentally channel hopped onto the voting at the end. Judging by the winning entry the others must have been up to the usual instantly forgettable standard of Eurovision.

FraserLFA

5,083 posts

204 months

Sunday 30th May 2010
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Although we're not hosting it, we put a LOT of money in to it every year. We automatically get through to the final along with spain,France and Germany due to our large contributions that get the show underway. It's not a huge cost to the host country.

Bing o

15,184 posts

249 months

Sunday 30th May 2010
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Seriously, is this news, politics, or economics?? FFS put it in the Lounge.

FraserLFA

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204 months

Sunday 30th May 2010
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Bing o said:
Seriously, is this news, politics, or economics?? FFS put it in the Lounge.
There is an arguement for Economics, after we pay millions for an event that doesn't benefit us

MX7

7,902 posts

204 months

Sunday 30th May 2010
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On the radio last week they said that this year you could vote before the acts had played.

It's past it's Sell By date.

Jasandjules

72,616 posts

259 months

Sunday 30th May 2010
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colonel c said:
I didn't even realise it was taking place until I accidentally channel hopped onto the voting at the end.
Me too. Just flicked over during a break from the Million Pound Drop. The winning one I just caught as well, but it seemed a bit naff - I actually thought the Belgian one was much, much better.

And I certainly did not know that we spend money on this s**t. Why?


MiniMan64

19,465 posts

220 months

Sunday 30th May 2010
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FraserLFA said:
Although we're not hosting it, we put a LOT of money in to it every year. We automatically get through to the final along with spain,France and Germany due to our large contributions that get the show underway. It's not a huge cost to the host country.
The Russians spent £30million on it last year, the Norwegians said they'd spent £20million on this year and if they won again they'd refuse to host again based on cost.

FraserLFA

5,083 posts

204 months

Sunday 30th May 2010
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MiniMan64 said:
FraserLFA said:
Although we're not hosting it, we put a LOT of money in to it every year. We automatically get through to the final along with spain,France and Germany due to our large contributions that get the show underway. It's not a huge cost to the host country.
The Russians spent £30million on it last year, the Norwegians said they'd spent £20million on this year and if they won again they'd refuse to host again based on cost.
Don't get me wrong, the host spends a lot, But England, France, Spain and Germany have to pay a lot more. God knows why...

Shaw Tarse

31,896 posts

233 months

Sunday 30th May 2010
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So can we pull out?

FraserLFA

5,083 posts

204 months

Sunday 30th May 2010
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Shaw Tarse said:
So can we pull out?
I don't see why not

deevlash

10,442 posts

267 months

Sunday 30th May 2010
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is it public money? Or the BBC pissing away licence fees?

FraserLFA

5,083 posts

204 months

Sunday 30th May 2010
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deevlash said:
is it public money? Or the BBC pissing away licence fees?
I believe public money. It was seen years ago as an investment. Back when we could win it. The benefit of hosting it was tourism spenditure rocket and therefore it was beneficial.

the_smalls

1,003 posts

233 months

Sunday 30th May 2010
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deevlash said:
is it public money? Or the BBC pissing away licence fees?
They're effectively the same thing though, right.

colonel c

Original Poster:

8,054 posts

269 months

Sunday 30th May 2010
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Bing o said:
Seriously, is this news, politics, or economics?? FFS put it in the Lounge.
Yes it was on Sky and BBC news. Especially if it involve using TV licence fee payers money.

tubbystu

3,846 posts

290 months

Sunday 30th May 2010
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FraserLFA said:
MiniMan64 said:
FraserLFA said:
Although we're not hosting it, we put a LOT of money in to it every year. We automatically get through to the final along with spain,France and Germany due to our large contributions that get the show underway. It's not a huge cost to the host country.
The Russians spent £30million on it last year, the Norwegians said they'd spent £20million on this year and if they won again they'd refuse to host again based on cost.
Don't get me wrong, the host spends a lot, But England, France, Spain and Germany have to pay a lot more. God knows why...
Because we are founding members of the EBU - the European Broadcasting Union Wiki and as founding members we pay a significant part of their annual budget.

EuroVision is their gig. Local country presumably pays to stage the actual show - but the tourist traffic and general increase in awareness of the host city should pay this back, certainly over time. Of the local costs perhaps 50% are spent locally on hotels, taxis, restaurants etc, so is actually put straight back in the home economy.

FraserLFA

5,083 posts

204 months

Sunday 30th May 2010
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tubbystu said:
FraserLFA said:
MiniMan64 said:
FraserLFA said:
Although we're not hosting it, we put a LOT of money in to it every year. We automatically get through to the final along with spain,France and Germany due to our large contributions that get the show underway. It's not a huge cost to the host country.
The Russians spent £30million on it last year, the Norwegians said they'd spent £20million on this year and if they won again they'd refuse to host again based on cost.
Don't get me wrong, the host spends a lot, But England, France, Spain and Germany have to pay a lot more. God knows why...
Because we are founding members of the EBU - the European Broadcasting Union Wiki and as founding members we pay a significant part of their annual budget.

EuroVision is their gig. Local country presumably pays to stage the actual show - but the tourist traffic and general increase in awareness of the host city should pay this back, certainly over time. Of the local costs perhaps 50% are spent locally on hotels, taxis, restaurants etc, so is actually put straight back in the home economy.
I understand that but why do we still invest in something that has no foreseeable return? Germany have done well this year and will see the benefits, but we will probably never win eurovision again.

tubbystu

3,846 posts

290 months

Sunday 30th May 2010
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Because the EBU is a club that Britain considers could not continue without Britain being at the senior level. Television was invented here and a need for the UK to remain at the forefront of development is seen as paramount.

Standard setting and technological development being the main areas of interest - however now the BBC is decimating its R&D sections there may be no longer be as solid a case.

Colour transmission, Nicam stereo, sub-titles, DVB type Freeview etc are all codified standards created within the EBU.

The Eurovision contest is a minor part of the EBU's operation - but the one most seen by the public. It was originally an excuse for a show (and lets face it it still is an excuse for a show !) to see if & how European wide live TV simulcasts were even possible. It morphed into the beast we have today almost of its own accord.