Remove the vote from those on habitual benefits

[stigmundfreud]

Should we consider this? If someone has been an habitual benefit claimant that has never contributed to society should they get the vote? Actually how about raising the minimum voting age to 25 and impose a requirement that you either have to have a degree or been working for a minimum of 4 years?

[jshell]

I've met some degree educated folks who are still spackers. And, this subject was done to death before.

[stigmundfreud]

jshell said:

I've met some degree educated folks who are still spackers. And, this subject was done to death before.

OK decent degrees, so nothing with a BA for example

[Wanta996Gotta]

I am Landlord and deal with these benifit claimants on a daily occasion and the majority of them cant be bothered to vote. Another myth that the benifit scroungers vote for Labour.

They dont vote atall - cant be arsed.

[Shay HTFC]

Maybe only let business owners vote too, and put the plebs in workhouses? Welcome to the Victorian age.

[Snoggledog]

Can't remember which country it was or when it was, but there was a place that would only allow people to vote who'd completed national service.

Actually I have a feeling it was the ancient Greeks / Cretians or somebody from that area.

[jshell]

stigmundfreud said:

jshell said:

I've met some degree educated folks who are still spackers. And, this subject was done to death before.

OK decent degrees, so nothing with a BA for example

I'm not taking the p1ss here, but I know some PhD educated people who can hardly tie their own shoelaces. A degree only means you can study to a certain level, not that you are 'intelligent' enough to choose the way a country is run. The two aren't linked.

[loltolhurst]

why on earth would under 25s not get a vote?? + as said those on habitual benefits could not be arsed to vote anyway

[Tony*T3]

stigmundfreud said:

Should we consider this? If someone has been an habitual benefit claimant that has never contributed to society should they get the vote? Actually how about raising the minimum voting age to 25 and impose a requirement that you either have to have a degree or been working for a minimum of 4 years?

Please list the things you've actually done for your country that entitiles YOU to the vote.

[Fittster]

Why not simply remove their benefits?

[superlightr]

Link the number of votes to the amount of tax you pay.

I know my vote is worth more than the unwashed.

[stigmundfreud]

loltolhurst said:

why on earth would under 25s not get a vote?? + as said those on habitual benefits could not be arsed to vote anyway

because the danger is with 18 to say 21 year olds is the "fashionable" vote. I work with a lot of this age group and it was "oh we should like you know all vote liberal because of <insert some popularist ste>".

[Fittster]

Tony*T3 said:

stigmundfreud said:

Should we consider this? If someone has been an habitual benefit claimant that has never contributed to society should they get the vote? Actually how about raising the minimum voting age to 25 and impose a requirement that you either have to have a degree or been working for a minimum of 4 years?

Please list the things you've actually done for your country that entitiles YOU to the vote.

No representation without taxation. After the age of 18 if you are taking more out of the system than you are putting in why should you expect a say on how the system is constructed?

[Fittster]

Shay HTFC said:

Maybe only let business owners vote too, and put the plebs in workhouses? Welcome to the Victorian age.

A time of dramatic economic growth that hugely improved people living standards and stronger family units than we see today. The Welfare state has huge negative consequences.

[stigmundfreud]

Groober said:

A degree to be able to vote! That is the most stupid thing I have heard. What about all the Plumbers, Sparkies and countless other trades that contribute to this country. You think some spacktard with a micky mouse degree in Fashion and textiles should get the vote over them.

I do agree with your other point though.

Edited by Groober on Friday 14th May 10:35

Did I exclude anyone? No, I said either a degree or 4 years minimum work experience. Still, I guess you are a "suck through the teeth its gonna cost yer" builder type? What other point?

Edited by stigmundfreud on Friday 14th May 10:37

[loltolhurst]

stigmundfreud said:

loltolhurst said:

why on earth would under 25s not get a vote?? + as said those on habitual benefits could not be arsed to vote anyway

because the danger is with 18 to say 21 year olds is the "fashionable" vote. I work with a lot of this age group and it was "oh we should like you know all vote liberal because of <insert some popularist ste>".

and the problem with older ones is that they " have always voted labour " whatever the policies. u cant start saying you cant have the vote for this or that reason. everyone should have it who has lived in britain for more than 5 years and is over 16.

[Wanta996Gotta]

Groober said:

A degree to be able to vote! That is the most stupid thing I have heard. What about all the Plumbers, Sparkies and countless other trades that contribute to this country. You think some spacktard with a micky mouse degree in Fashion and textiles should get the vote over them.

+1

Remember this is the Pistonheads politics section.

[stigmundfreud]

loltolhurst said:

stigmundfreud said:

loltolhurst said:

why on earth would under 25s not get a vote?? + as said those on habitual benefits could not be arsed to vote anyway

because the danger is with 18 to say 21 year olds is the "fashionable" vote. I work with a lot of this age group and it was "oh we should like you know all vote liberal because of <insert some popularist ste>".

and the problem with older ones is that they " have always voted labour " whatever the policies. u cant start saying you cant have the vote for this or that reason. everyone should have it who has lived in britain for more than 5 years and is over 16.

I'd always voted labour but that was because traditionally I agreed with their policy. I stopped voting 2 elections ago but voted Conservative this time.

[stigmundfreud]

Maybe the vote should be based on credit rating?

[poo at Paul's]

Dont let hippies or beleivers in MMGW vote either.

and dont get me started on the fuzzy wuzzies.