Can't afford to keep them, can't afford to sack them.
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"A union has won its High Court bid to halt government cost-cutting measures which threatened to reduce the level of redundancy pay for civil servants.
Lawyers for the Public and Commercial Services Union (PCS) argued changes made to the Civil Service Compensation Scheme without agreement were unlawful.
Mr Justice Sales ruled the union's application for judicial review should succeed and the changes be quashed.
It follows a series of strikes across the UK, including one on Budget Day.
Tens of thousands of workers took part in the industrial action, which hit job centres and benefit offices, courts, ports, driving tests and Whitehall departments.
'Gone too far'
The union claimed the changes - which came into play on 1 April and removed or reduced payments based upon age and length of service - threatened to "rob" existing staff of up to a third of their redundancy entitlements - worth tens of thousands of pounds.
We have always accepted that changes are necessary but all we ever asked is that they were fair and protected those who have given loyal service
Mark Serwotka
PCS general secretary
After the ruling in London, PCS solicitor Richard Arthur said: "If the government wants to alter rights which have been agreed for civil servants then it has to get the agreement of the unions.
"That is what the law says, and that is what the judge has ruled today."
PCS general secretary Mark Serwotka said the ruling was a "huge tribute" to union members who had faced some "disgraceful criticism from their employer and ministers" but "refused to sit back and watch their terms and conditions ripped up in front of their eyes".
"We have always accepted that changes are necessary but all we ever asked is that they were fair and protected those who have given loyal service.
"We will now be knocking on the door of the next government to remind ministers they are legally obliged to reach an agreement with us. If they do not meet their obligations, the union will have to consider further industrial and legal action."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8672150.stm
Lawyers for the Public and Commercial Services Union (PCS) argued changes made to the Civil Service Compensation Scheme without agreement were unlawful.
Mr Justice Sales ruled the union's application for judicial review should succeed and the changes be quashed.
It follows a series of strikes across the UK, including one on Budget Day.
Tens of thousands of workers took part in the industrial action, which hit job centres and benefit offices, courts, ports, driving tests and Whitehall departments.
'Gone too far'
The union claimed the changes - which came into play on 1 April and removed or reduced payments based upon age and length of service - threatened to "rob" existing staff of up to a third of their redundancy entitlements - worth tens of thousands of pounds.
We have always accepted that changes are necessary but all we ever asked is that they were fair and protected those who have given loyal service
Mark Serwotka
PCS general secretary
After the ruling in London, PCS solicitor Richard Arthur said: "If the government wants to alter rights which have been agreed for civil servants then it has to get the agreement of the unions.
"That is what the law says, and that is what the judge has ruled today."
PCS general secretary Mark Serwotka said the ruling was a "huge tribute" to union members who had faced some "disgraceful criticism from their employer and ministers" but "refused to sit back and watch their terms and conditions ripped up in front of their eyes".
"We have always accepted that changes are necessary but all we ever asked is that they were fair and protected those who have given loyal service.
"We will now be knocking on the door of the next government to remind ministers they are legally obliged to reach an agreement with us. If they do not meet their obligations, the union will have to consider further industrial and legal action."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8672150.stm
I see now some of the unions has stated there will be 'Greece Like' riots if there are cuts to public spending.
FFS, talk about holding the country to ransom! This is the problem with such a large public sector! Do they not realise that wihtout the cuts, there will be no money let to pay them!?
It's quite simple really;
We weither have Public sector cuts......
Or
The country goes bankrupt.
FFS, talk about holding the country to ransom! This is the problem with such a large public sector! Do they not realise that wihtout the cuts, there will be no money let to pay them!?
It's quite simple really;
We weither have Public sector cuts......
Or
The country goes bankrupt.
Can't they be sacked for gross incompetence (that should cover more than half of them) no notice, pension, holiday pay etc; just text them, don't come in on Monday you're fired many thanks for the years of thieving from the tax payer but we no longer need you any more.
Riots, they'd all take their usual sickies rather than riot.
Bring back the SPG that'll learn them.
Riots, they'd all take their usual sickies rather than riot.
Bring back the SPG that'll learn them.
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