Let's make a list of Gordon Brown's lies.....
Let's make a list of Gordon Brown's lies.....
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srebbe64

Original Poster:

13,021 posts

267 months

Saturday 1st May 2010
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...reckon there must be hundreds, because there's several every day:

1) I thought Mrs Duffy was talking about foreign students
2) No more boom & bust
3) We will have a referendum about the EU

please add so that we can have a definitive, and unambiguous, list to show people.

Shaw Tarse

31,893 posts

233 months

Saturday 1st May 2010
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This could be a long list!

Skywalker

3,269 posts

244 months

Saturday 1st May 2010
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Every time he says "I'm sorry". LIES



Not only was he fugging lying when he signed it on 'our' or Her Majesty's behalf - but he didn't even have the balls to sign it at the same time as every other european leader.




Yeast Lord

329 posts

199 months

Saturday 1st May 2010
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Posted by Dan1 of the Housing forum:

1.] In his 1997 budget, Brown abolished dividend tax credits on pension funds. Companies saw the writing on the wall and immediately ended their final salary pension schemes to new employees shortly after the 'Brown raid'. They also started to cut down on the number of people with long final salary pension service and worked towards ending a scheme which would no longer be viable.
  • The CBI opposed Browns Tax credit cuts. Even the treasury and No.10 opposed them. [But Brown made the cuts anyway.]
2.] By abolishing the pensions tax credit, the yield for institutional funds across the entire market fell by 20 per cent. Few people outside the City understood the change and hardly any MPs protested. But Whitehall papers produced under the Freedom of Information act showed that Mr Brown was warned by his officials and by the Treasury that there would be dire consequences.
They warned it would wipe £50bn off the value of funds, and that shares could drop by up to 20 per cent and public sector pensions would need topping up. [Brown chose to ignore this warning]
  • The value of pension funds have since lost around £5bn per year since the 1997 tax relief cuts. Pension funds holding the cash that almost everyone in the country had planned to use for our retirement have lost around £100 billion over the last 12 years.
3.] The advice Brown was given by this Treasury Paper, in 1997 was as follows:

'The changes in incentives are likely to lead to substantial changes in portfolios. Pension funds will find equity relatively less attractive, and will prefer other assets – particularly interest bearing securities and foreign equity – and may also be prompted to consider more direct property investment.'

Those funds were then channelled into fuelling an unsustainable property bubble, BTL portfolios, which developed because of Labours complete lack of regulation of the Banks.This was followed by ever increasing toxic mortgage debt, and this was followed by the bank bailouts.

This is just one example of Gordon Browns incompetent decision making which helped to create the cornerstone of the debt bubble.

4.] In the ten years previous to Browns Raid on pensions, From 1987 to 1997 the Average House Price rose from £40k to £55k.
A 33.3% rise over ten years.

From 1997[post tax dividend cuts] to 2007, the Average House Price rose from £55k to £190k [Nationwide Building Society figures]

A staggering 245% increase over the same period. [Ten years.]

The UK should not be facing the debt we are facing, and The Labour Party are guilty of gross fiscal mismanagement and criminal negligence.

FourWheelDrift

92,322 posts

314 months

Saturday 1st May 2010
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Skywalker

3,269 posts

244 months

Saturday 1st May 2010
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GB - I have always funded the Military with whatever they asked for LIES
GB - Military spending has increased every year LIES
GB - I have saved the world LIES
GB - Tony Blair is my friend and I respect him LIES
GB - Damian McBride's smears were nothing to do with me LIES

Yeast Lord

329 posts

199 months

Saturday 1st May 2010
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Did anyone ever make a citizen arrest of the dymanic duo, nondom blair for his work in iraq and brown for his gross fiscal mismanagement and criminal negligence of handling the economy. I'm sure there was an reward for the nondom or I may have been dreaming.

The Black Flash

13,735 posts

228 months

Saturday 1st May 2010
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I like this one, courtesy of http://dizzythinks.net. It's based on the figures he gave in each budget statement as chancellor.

dizzy said:
The dotted downwards lines are his borrowing figures and his predictions for the coming years. The solid orange line that rises in an approximate 30 degree angle upward trend is reality.

Debt is not down, it has risen year on year whilst he stood up in Parliament and said it was always coming down. The man is a complete and total liar.


The actual figure for 2010 would be off the top of the graph now.

Killer2005

20,605 posts

258 months

Saturday 1st May 2010
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Labour said they the wouldn't raise income tax, instead we have 111 new taxes (IIRC)

BlueMR2

9,466 posts

232 months

Saturday 1st May 2010
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Surely its quicker to do a list of when he told the truth.

1.

There, that didn't take to long.

The Riddler

6,565 posts

227 months

Saturday 1st May 2010
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BlueMR2 said:
Surely its quicker to do a list of when he told the truth.

1.

There, that didn't take to long.
He lied about 1. too.

Scooby72

725 posts

211 months

Saturday 1st May 2010
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I'm sure he said something about "Not letting house prices get out of control" because it would "risk stability" think it might have been in his "No more boom and bust" speech.

Well that was a bit of a fib wasn't it.

Jasandjules

72,611 posts

259 months

Saturday 1st May 2010
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Every time he opens his mouth.

Shaw Tarse

31,893 posts

233 months

Saturday 1st May 2010
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Jasandjules said:
Every time he opens his mouth.
Even when he's doing that gurning thing?

BlueMR2

9,466 posts

232 months

Sunday 2nd May 2010
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The Riddler said:
BlueMR2 said:
Surely its quicker to do a list of when he told the truth.

1.

There, that didn't take to long.
He lied about 1. too.
It was the Gordon Gurn wasn't it.

Jasandjules

72,611 posts

259 months

Sunday 2nd May 2010
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Shaw Tarse said:
Jasandjules said:
Every time he opens his mouth.
Even when he's doing that gurning thing?
That's his breathing, and he's drawing breath to speak, so I'd go with a yes - I am sure his brain is lying inside his head when he is doing that....

El Guapo

2,787 posts

220 months

Sunday 2nd May 2010
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A list of all his lies? The internet is not big enough.

king arthur

7,889 posts

291 months

Sunday 2nd May 2010
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The Conservatives want to take £6bn out of the economy by not raising NI. It worries me that he can get away with this monstrosity so easily.

Evil Jack

1,649 posts

258 months

Sunday 2nd May 2010
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From Thursday:

"No life on the dole. That's my policy."

fking hell.

stewy68

1,826 posts

273 months

Sunday 2nd May 2010
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Dodgy-eyed halfwit liar, but then again, Cameron is not much better...watch and learn.