Argument with a friend, any conservatives care to help me?

[9e0r9e]

Just having an argument with a friend about the pro's and con's of the conservatives,seems like the vast majority of you are supporters so perhaps you could help?

basically, i need to name a policy which has/will help the poor at the expense of the rich?

[E31Shrew]

Theft?

[deeen]

Grammar schools (or schools vouchers for decent schools, or whatever the modern equivalent is)

[BarnatosGhost]

banning fee-paying schools.

[johnfm]

BarnatosGhost said:

banning fee-paying schools.

How will this help the poor at the expense of the rich?

[deeen]

BarnatosGhost said:

banning fee-paying schools.

Didn't know this was conservative policy?

[OnTheOverrun]

9e0r9e said:

Just having an argument with a friend about the pro's and con's of the conservatives,seems like the vast majority of you are supporters so perhaps you could help?

basically, i need to name a policy which has/will help the poor at the expense of the rich?

Those are socialist policies. Why would the Conservatives have socialist policies? I think the tories prefer policies like a well managed economy with low levels of debt which help both the rich and poor alike.

[DonnyMac]

BarnatosGhost said:

banning fee-paying schools.

I'd like to hear this one...

[deadslow]

Refusal to abolish 50% tax for high earners.

[mondeoman]

Easy - they "used to" beleive in smaller government, which leads to a better environment for small business, who employ the poor people, who then become wealtheir people, start their own business and employ even more poor people!

Don't know if thats still the case though...

[E31Shrew]

BarnatosGhost said:

banning fee-paying schools.

Can't actually see how that helps the poor! By keeping fee paying schools it helps the state sector out by having less pupils to educate.

[BarnatosGhost]

BarnatosGhost said:

banning fee-paying schools.

Sorry, i misunderstood the op - that certainly isn't conservative policy.

But if it was policy, it would help the poor at the expense of the rich by causing universities and high-end employers to recruit on merit, rather than on the basis of where you went to school.

It would also help to 'inspire' the poor and 'ground' the rich by reducing the sink effect of segregating the rich during their formative years. Valuable experience for both groups, imho.

[FourWheelDrift]

There are no policies that have/will help the poor at the expense of the rich. It's a fallacy dreamt up by the socialists. There are only policies to fleece the rich or fleece the poor, or fleece both at the same time.

[johnfm]

BarnatosGhost said:

BarnatosGhost said:

banning fee-paying schools.

Sorry, i misunderstood the op - that certainly isn't conservative policy.

But if it was policy, it would help the poor at the expense of the rich by causing universities and high-end employers to recruit on merit, rather than on the basis of where you went to school.

It would also help to 'inspire' the poor and 'ground' the rich by reducing the sink effect of segregating the rich during their formative years. Valuable experience for both groups, imho.

what rubbish.

The universities do recruit on merit - most fee paying school students have better results as they are manily selective schools, so only take kids who have passed entrance exams.

They then give them a bloody good education and excellend pastoral care for £10k a year+.

Your approach would just lower the standard. great.

[9e0r9e]

Thanks for your help everyone

[essayer]

"Make only millionaires pay Inheritance Tax. We will raise the Inheritance Tax threshold to £1 million, taking the family home for the vast majority of people out of Inheritance Tax altogether. We will pay for this by charging a flat-rate levy on UK residents of foreign origin who are tax-domiciled offshore."

Does that count?

[pugwash4x4]

FourWheelDrift said:

There are no policies that have/will help the poor at the expense of the rich. It's a fallacy dreamt up by the socialists. There are only policies to fleece the rich or fleece the poor, or fleece both at the same time.

yes- this.

smaller government will help everyone very very quickly.

[Engineer1]

pugwash4x4 said:

FourWheelDrift said:

There are no policies that have/will help the poor at the expense of the rich. It's a fallacy dreamt up by the socialists. There are only policies to fleece the rich or fleece the poor, or fleece both at the same time.

yes- this.

smaller government will help everyone very very quickly.

Except those who are part of the big government that aren't required in the small government.

[cs02rm0]

johnfm said:

BarnatosGhost said:

BarnatosGhost said:

banning fee-paying schools.

Sorry, i misunderstood the op - that certainly isn't conservative policy.

But if it was policy, it would help the poor at the expense of the rich by causing universities and high-end employers to recruit on merit, rather than on the basis of where you went to school.

It would also help to 'inspire' the poor and 'ground' the rich by reducing the sink effect of segregating the rich during their formative years. Valuable experience for both groups, imho.

what rubbish.

The universities do recruit on merit - most fee paying school students have better results as they are manily selective schools, so only take kids who have passed entrance exams.

Do universities still recruit on merit? I'd argue these days that there's a discrimination pressure biased towards those students not from fee paying schools.

[zac510]

I fail to see how fee-paying schools are bad. If there is a disparity in the quality of schools then maybe it's more indicative of a large rich-poor divide (ie a larger problem).