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I think I might complain too.
I mean, the whole concept of a 'Talking Pig' is completely ridiculous. It might give kids the wrong impression that Pigs can actually talk and wear clothes, and subsequently they could grow up thinking that a pigs could be considered human and given rights and freedoms.
I mean, the whole concept of a 'Talking Pig' is completely ridiculous. It might give kids the wrong impression that Pigs can actually talk and wear clothes, and subsequently they could grow up thinking that a pigs could be considered human and given rights and freedoms.
I don't see why anyone would have a problem with this story.
Lots of small kids don't like wearing seatbelts, and don't understand why they need to. If they're watching their favourite cartoon characters driving around without seatbelts, it just makes the parents' job that much harder.
The converse of this is that if their favourite cartoon characters do wear seatbelts, or tidy up their toys, or eat broccoli or whatever you care to choose, it makes parents' lives infinitely easier when trying to get kids to do likewise.
Why make life harder than it has to be?
Lots of small kids don't like wearing seatbelts, and don't understand why they need to. If they're watching their favourite cartoon characters driving around without seatbelts, it just makes the parents' job that much harder.
The converse of this is that if their favourite cartoon characters do wear seatbelts, or tidy up their toys, or eat broccoli or whatever you care to choose, it makes parents' lives infinitely easier when trying to get kids to do likewise.
Why make life harder than it has to be?
Kermit power said:
I don't see why anyone would have a problem with this story.
Lots of small kids don't like wearing seatbelts, and don't understand why they need to. If they're watching their favourite cartoon characters driving around without seatbelts, it just makes the parents' job that much harder.
The converse of this is that if their favourite cartoon characters do wear seatbelts, or tidy up their toys, or eat broccoli or whatever you care to choose, it makes parents' lives infinitely easier when trying to get kids to do likewise.
Why make life harder than it has to be?
I'm sorry but that's a crock of sLots of small kids don't like wearing seatbelts, and don't understand why they need to. If they're watching their favourite cartoon characters driving around without seatbelts, it just makes the parents' job that much harder.
The converse of this is that if their favourite cartoon characters do wear seatbelts, or tidy up their toys, or eat broccoli or whatever you care to choose, it makes parents' lives infinitely easier when trying to get kids to do likewise.
Why make life harder than it has to be?
te. My 6yr old daughter has always understood that she needs to have her seat belt on in the car and will actually berate me if I start moving the car (backing out of a space for example) if she hasn't finished putting it on. She has also understood for a couple of years now that TV isn't real.This is just yet more nannying for the sake of it.
Dogsey said:
Kermit power said:
I don't see why anyone would have a problem with this story.
Lots of small kids don't like wearing seatbelts, and don't understand why they need to. If they're watching their favourite cartoon characters driving around without seatbelts, it just makes the parents' job that much harder.
The converse of this is that if their favourite cartoon characters do wear seatbelts, or tidy up their toys, or eat broccoli or whatever you care to choose, it makes parents' lives infinitely easier when trying to get kids to do likewise.
Why make life harder than it has to be?
I'm sorry but that's a crock of sLots of small kids don't like wearing seatbelts, and don't understand why they need to. If they're watching their favourite cartoon characters driving around without seatbelts, it just makes the parents' job that much harder.
The converse of this is that if their favourite cartoon characters do wear seatbelts, or tidy up their toys, or eat broccoli or whatever you care to choose, it makes parents' lives infinitely easier when trying to get kids to do likewise.
Why make life harder than it has to be?
te. My 6yr old daughter has always understood that she needs to have her seat belt on in the car and will actually berate me if I start moving the car (backing out of a space for example) if she hasn't finished putting it on. She has also understood for a couple of years now that TV isn't real.This is just yet more nannying for the sake of it.
My eldest son when he first went into a seat with seatbelt rather than harness absolutely hated it, and would do anything he could to avoid having to wear it, and would frequently try to undo it whilst we were under way. He would pick up on anyone not wearing a seatbelt in a TV programme, and start asking why it was alright for them and not for him. Whether the answer was "because he's a mouse", or "because tractors don't have seatbelts or "the 5 point harness replaces the seatbelt" or whatever other reason, it's a complete pain in the arse having to go through the litany every time.
It's not nannying at all. Nobody is forcing them to make the change. Someone has pointed out to them that they're being irresponsible, and they've agreed that they are and are changing it. That's not nannying. It's not news either. It's just common sense.
Of course, any parent whose little darling hasn't put them through something will automatically assume that anyone else who has is either a bad parent or talking b
ks.If your kids aren't wearing seatbelts...it's not because some 'talking cartoon pig' on tv isn't wearing one.....
It's because YOU, as the kids parent, have not done your job properly in explaining the reasons why the seatbelt needs to be worn!!
Take some responsibility upon yourselves, and stop trying to fob it off to everyone else but yourselves!
You see this all the time nowadays. A lot of parents think everything is someone else's fault/responsibility.
And we wonder why kids are becoming more unruly and uncontrolable.
I was a kid not so long ago. I am, who I am today because of the things my parents told me, not because of a fricking cartoon show FFS!
It's because YOU, as the kids parent, have not done your job properly in explaining the reasons why the seatbelt needs to be worn!!
Take some responsibility upon yourselves, and stop trying to fob it off to everyone else but yourselves!
You see this all the time nowadays. A lot of parents think everything is someone else's fault/responsibility.
And we wonder why kids are becoming more unruly and uncontrolable.
I was a kid not so long ago. I am, who I am today because of the things my parents told me, not because of a fricking cartoon show FFS!
Edited by Spiritual_Beggar on Friday 15th January 11:08
Mark34bn said:
the shows aren't documentaries.
Try telling that to a 2yr old. 
Mark34bn said:
This story is more about the mum throwing her hands up and playing the blame game.
How do you know?All the article says is that she contacted the programme makers to explain that Peppa's lack of a seatbelt was making it harder than it otherwise would've been to get her daughter to wear a seatbelt.
Did she then give up and never drive anywhere again? Or did she just get on with it, get her kid strapped in, go wherever she had to go, and then at some point voice her annoyance to the programme makers?
The article doesn't say. Everyone just seems to want to leap to the most negative assumption.
Kermit power said:
I don't see why anyone would have a problem with this story.
Lots of small kids don't like wearing seatbelts, and don't understand why they need to. If they're watching their favourite cartoon characters driving around without seatbelts, it just makes the parents' job that much harder.
The converse of this is that if their favourite cartoon characters do wear seatbelts, or tidy up their toys, or eat broccoli or whatever you care to choose, it makes parents' lives infinitely easier when trying to get kids to do likewise.
Why make life harder than it has to be?
I know exactly what you mean. I take constant exception to these cartoons that depict people flying. The number of kids you see screaming because their mothers won't let them jump off the roof is appalling. All fiction should only depict things that happen, legally, in everyday life.Lots of small kids don't like wearing seatbelts, and don't understand why they need to. If they're watching their favourite cartoon characters driving around without seatbelts, it just makes the parents' job that much harder.
The converse of this is that if their favourite cartoon characters do wear seatbelts, or tidy up their toys, or eat broccoli or whatever you care to choose, it makes parents' lives infinitely easier when trying to get kids to do likewise.
Why make life harder than it has to be?
Spiritual_Beggar said:
If your kids aren't wearing seatbelts...it's not because some 'talking cartoon pig' on tv isn't wearing one.....
It's because YOU, as the kids parent, have not done your job properly in explaining the reasons why the seatbelt needs to be worn!!
Take some responsibility upon yourselves, and stop trying to fob it off to everyone else but yourselves!
You see this all the time nowadays. A lot of parents think everything is someone else's fault/responsibility.
And we wonder why kids are becoming more unruly and uncontrolable.
I was a kid not so long ago. I am, who I am today because of the things my parents told me, not because of a fricking cartoon show FFS!
Have you tried rational explanation with a 2yr old whose conversation consists of something like "Pep no got, Pep no got, Pep no got" repeated time after time?It's because YOU, as the kids parent, have not done your job properly in explaining the reasons why the seatbelt needs to be worn!!
Take some responsibility upon yourselves, and stop trying to fob it off to everyone else but yourselves!
You see this all the time nowadays. A lot of parents think everything is someone else's fault/responsibility.
And we wonder why kids are becoming more unruly and uncontrolable.
I was a kid not so long ago. I am, who I am today because of the things my parents told me, not because of a fricking cartoon show FFS!
Are you completely incapable of viewing things other than in absolutes?
1. Parent is not helped in getting child strapped in by Peppa pig not wearing seatbelt.
2. Parent comments to programme makers that this doesn't help.
3. Programme makers could ignore her. Programme makers could say "you have a point, and we'll rectify it".
4. Programme makers choose second option, and recognise their naivety in not thinking of it first time round.
Where, in any of that, is the parent in question abdicating all responsibility? Or do you just think that we should all shut up and never comment to businesses on ways in which their products impact on our daily lives?
If she'd been suing for compensation because her little cherub had been catapulted through the windscreen whilst not wearing a seatbelt then you and everyone else on here would have a perfectly valid argument that I would agree with. But she's not. She's simply pointing out to the programme makers that they are making her life more difficult than it needs to be, and they've responded by saying "we hadn't thought of that, but now we have we can see you're right".
That's it. End of complete non-story.
Kermit power said:
Have you tried rational explanation with a 2yr old whose conversation consists of something like "Pep no got, Pep no got, Pep no got" repeated time after time?
Are you completely incapable of viewing things other than in absolutes?
1. Parent is not helped in getting child strapped in by Peppa pig not wearing seatbelt.
2. Parent comments to programme makers that this doesn't help.
3. Programme makers could ignore her. Programme makers could say "you have a point, and we'll rectify it".
4. Programme makers choose second option, and recognise their naivety in not thinking of it first time round.
Where, in any of that, is the parent in question abdicating all responsibility? Or do you just think that we should all shut up and never comment to businesses on ways in which their products impact on our daily lives?
If she'd been suing for compensation because her little cherub had been catapulted through the windscreen whilst not wearing a seatbelt then you and everyone else on here would have a perfectly valid argument that I would agree with. But she's not. She's simply pointing out to the programme makers that they are making her life more difficult than it needs to be, and they've responded by saying "we hadn't thought of that, but now we have we can see you're right".
That's it. End of complete non-story.
I'm talking about in general really.Are you completely incapable of viewing things other than in absolutes?
1. Parent is not helped in getting child strapped in by Peppa pig not wearing seatbelt.
2. Parent comments to programme makers that this doesn't help.
3. Programme makers could ignore her. Programme makers could say "you have a point, and we'll rectify it".
4. Programme makers choose second option, and recognise their naivety in not thinking of it first time round.
Where, in any of that, is the parent in question abdicating all responsibility? Or do you just think that we should all shut up and never comment to businesses on ways in which their products impact on our daily lives?
If she'd been suing for compensation because her little cherub had been catapulted through the windscreen whilst not wearing a seatbelt then you and everyone else on here would have a perfectly valid argument that I would agree with. But she's not. She's simply pointing out to the programme makers that they are making her life more difficult than it needs to be, and they've responded by saying "we hadn't thought of that, but now we have we can see you're right".
That's it. End of complete non-story.
You hear stories all the time of Parents expecting the 'Schools' or other public bodies to now perform the jobs that a lot of the time Parents should be responsible for!
Sometimes it's not necessairly the parents fault, sometimes its the fault of the nanny state not realising that Parents are quite capable of knowing what's best for their kids.....but you do hear a lot of stories.
Fact is, it's the parents job to communicate Real life issues to their kids.
I'm not a parent yet, but I've had to explain issues like this to my younger siblings, as well as to the younger members of our family, and I can't say I've had any problems with it. I did a lot of babysitting duties in the past for close family friends and never had difficulty explaining issues like this when posed with a question.
It's about communication IMO. If communicated properly, the kid will understand.
Personally, there's nout wrong with the article. That's the program's prerogative if they deem action is to be taken.
But it really gripes me when I hear parents try and BLAME the show for their kid not wearing seatbelts, etc.
It's a kids show! It's supposed to entertain....and should be able to do so without having to worry about getting every little intricate detail or morality aspect right!
Quote from article;
"But it reversed its stance after a parent complained that her daughter had refused to wear a seatbelt BECAUSE Peppa did not."
That is the parent Blaming the show is it not?
Note to add; I never thought Postman Pat was irresponsible, or wanted to copy him when I was a Kid!!!!! I'm pretty sure he doesn't wear a belt either...at least, I never remember him putting one on (though...was a few years ago now
)Edited by Spiritual_Beggar on Friday 15th January 11:37
My daughter (around 7 at the time) took off her seat belt when we entered our street and I'd stopped to let a neighbours car past. I asked why she'd unbuckled herself and she replied that we were near to home that it didn't matter. I said OK, set of and at around 10 mph stood on the brakes. She shot out of her seat her chest hitting the dash board (was a ford Galaxy at the time) and gently bumped her head on the winscreen. Must admit that she shot forward with much more force than I'd intended and it did shock me somewhat....but hey..she's never complained about wearing a seatbelt again.
Spiritual_Beggar said:
I think I might complain too.
I mean, the whole concept of a 'Talking Pig' is completely ridiculous. It might give kids the wrong impression that Pigs can actually talk and wear clothes, and subsequently they could grow up thinking that a pigs could be considered human and given rights and freedoms.
They missed the big story though.I mean, the whole concept of a 'Talking Pig' is completely ridiculous. It might give kids the wrong impression that Pigs can actually talk and wear clothes, and subsequently they could grow up thinking that a pigs could be considered human and given rights and freedoms.
Have you ever seen them in the same room? I haven't!
broadside said:
My daughter (around 7 at the time) took off her seat belt when we entered our street and I'd stopped to let a neighbours car past. I asked why she'd unbuckled herself and she replied that we were near to home that it didn't matter. I said OK, set of and at around 10 mph stood on the brakes. She shot out of her seat her chest hitting the dash board (was a ford Galaxy at the time) and gently bumped her head on the winscreen. Must admit that she shot forward with much more force than I'd intended and it did shock me somewhat....but hey..she's never complained about wearing a seatbelt again.
Now that's good parenting . My dad made a "shocking coil" for me when I was a kid to teach me to respect electricity. Basically he gave me two wires to hold then whacked me with a small(ish) electric shock. When I started to blubber he asked me if it had hurt. On careful consideration I had to admit that, no it didn't really, but it wasn't very pleasant. Since that day I have always been wary of electricity but not scared of it.Mondeohdear said:
broadside said:
My daughter (around 7 at the time) took off her seat belt when we entered our street and I'd stopped to let a neighbours car past. I asked why she'd unbuckled herself and she replied that we were near to home that it didn't matter. I said OK, set of and at around 10 mph stood on the brakes. She shot out of her seat her chest hitting the dash board (was a ford Galaxy at the time) and gently bumped her head on the winscreen. Must admit that she shot forward with much more force than I'd intended and it did shock me somewhat....but hey..she's never complained about wearing a seatbelt again.
Now that's good parenting . My dad made a "shocking coil" for me when I was a kid to teach me to respect electricity. Basically he gave me two wires to hold then whacked me with a small(ish) electric shock. When I started to blubber he asked me if it had hurt. On careful consideration I had to admit that, no it didn't really, but it wasn't very pleasant. Since that day I have always been wary of electricity but not scared of it.t from the whining fker contingent on here - just wait. Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff