Bus crashes and overturns in Clapham...
Bus crashes and overturns in Clapham...
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thatone1967

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4,252 posts

221 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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CraigW

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312 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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I was 5 cars behind it, cant believe nobody was killed.

neil_bolton

17,113 posts

294 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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CraigW said:
I was 5 cars behind it, cant believe nobody was killed.
What happened to cause it chap, did you see (hopefully nothing horrible)?

Hope you're ok?

CraigW

12,248 posts

312 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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I'm fine thx bud, I didnt actually see it because I was on a bend.

Guy in an car next to me did, got impression bus lost it somehow (which doesnt surprise me as I was only thinking yesterday how inappropriately london bus drivers generally drive for the road conditions AND considering what they are driving), the bus then went into the path of a truck, hit it then turned over. i could be wrong, but thats the story I had.

He was white as a sheet.

thatone1967

Original Poster:

4,252 posts

221 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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CraigW said:
I'm fine thx bud, I didnt actually see it because I was on a bend.

Guy in an car next to me did, got impression bus lost it somehow (which doesnt surprise me as I was only thinking yesterday how inappropriately london bus drivers generally drive for the road conditions AND considering what they are driving), the bus then went into the path of a truck, hit it then turned over. i could be wrong, but thats the story I had.

He was white as a sheet.
Like said above, glad your ok.. having seem the angles that some of those buses can get to WITHOUT turning over, I can only assume it takes a lot of skill and dedication to actually get one to turn over...

CraigW

12,248 posts

312 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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this may or may not be the bus drivers fault & it sounds like he's quite badly hurt so I dont want to speculate.. BUT.

yesterday I saw a driver take a 90 degree turn from knightsbridge onto sloane street faster than I would do in my 355. He swung it round and very nearly took out a pedestrian. I've been hit my a bus (in the car) and some (not all) the drivers treat the streets of london like their personal racetrack. I'm amazed more people arent injured by them.

Matt p

1,119 posts

238 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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Ill 2nd that chap, trying to cross oxford street in the van last night and low and behold a bendy bus jumps the lights!...I'm sure I squeezed out a little bum nut.


CraigW said:
this may or may not be the bus drivers fault & it sounds like he's quite badly hurt so I dont want to speculate.. BUT.

yesterday I saw a driver take a 90 degree turn from knightsbridge onto sloane street faster than I would do in my 355. He swung it round and very nearly took out a pedestrian. I've been hit my a bus (in the car) and some (not all) the drivers treat the streets of london like their personal racetrack. I'm amazed more people arent injured by them.

thatone1967

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4,252 posts

221 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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Matt p said:
Ill 2nd that chap, trying to cross oxford street in the van last night and low and behold a bendy bus jumps the lights!...I'm sure I squeezed out a little bum nut.


CraigW said:
this may or may not be the bus drivers fault & it sounds like he's quite badly hurt so I dont want to speculate.. BUT.

yesterday I saw a driver take a 90 degree turn from knightsbridge onto sloane street faster than I would do in my 355. He swung it round and very nearly took out a pedestrian. I've been hit my a bus (in the car) and some (not all) the drivers treat the streets of london like their personal racetrack. I'm amazed more people arent injured by them.
dont want to steer the thread away, but god I get p1ssed off with bus drivers thinking that because the Highway code says " please let the bus go first, it gives them right of way" Had an incident last summer when I had a row with a bvus driver who arrived at a gap the same time as me when I had right of way, and just kept coming.. when I said something, his reply was "go and buy a bigger car (I drive an MGF) you fat c**t!....

What he did not bargain on was me turning around, and pulling infront of him at the next lights... was great watcjing him back track out of that one....

JakeR

3,950 posts

299 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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It's not just London, I was on a bus in Aberdeen on Monday, and every time the guy pulled into a bus stop, it was like he was braking for Druids! Nutter!

CraigW

12,248 posts

312 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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yeah I took my one bus journey this year and there was no room so i was by the driver. We were in traffic moving at about 10 mph then stopping for 5-10 seconds or so..

Every time the driver stopped she slammed on the brakes and sent everyone flying. Evenetually I said, are you blind? she said "eh?" i said, "well you can see the traffic stopping better than anyone, yet every time you brake its as if you werent expecting it"

she didnt say anything. I was glad to get off, havent got back on since!

thatone1967

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221 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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Could have been a whole lot worse

Four people were seriously injured when a lorry collided with a double-decker bus and shed its load of steel girders in south-west London.

Fire crews had to cut a number of passengers out of the route C3 bus after the incident which happened in Battersea at about 0830 GMT.

The girders apparently smashed through windows. The badly injured, including the driver, were taken to hospital.

Another 17 have been treated in hospital for minor injuries.

The crash happened at the junction of Plough Road and St John's Hill.

'People screaming'

There were about 25 passengers on the bus at the time.

Investment banker Rory Withfield, 31, who was on board, said: "I was standing near the front of the bus when I saw the truck approaching.

After it fell over everything was quiet as everyone had realised what had happened

Rory Withfield, passenger
"It was carrying metal pylons which struck the bus and were ripping the side of it."

He said the driver appeared disorientated and the bus then mounted the pavement and toppled over.

Describing the moment the vehicle overturned, Mr Withfield said: "It was leaning over and then it seemed to fall in slow motion.

"People were screaming and everyone's bags were falling down one side. After it fell over everything was quiet as everyone had realised what had happened."

He continued: "There were one or two people trying to help the rest. The driver seemed unconscious but he came to. We were stuck in there until the emergency services arrived."

Frank Keogh, a reporter from the BBC Sport website who lives locally, saw the aftermath.

He said: "The bus was travelling uphill. The lorry was carrying steel girders and apparently shed part of its load.

"The girders crashed into the bus."

Mr Keogh continued: "Firefighters and emergency services are all at the scene. There is a lot of sleet coming down.

"The bus is completely on its side. The lorry is nearby and it appears the girders smashed through the windows of the bus."

Full investigation

A London Ambulance Service spokesman said: "Fifteen patients were treated at the scene and transported to hospital.

"Three patients were taken as a priority - a 27-year-old woman and a 30-year-old to St George's Hospital, and a 45-year-old man to Chelsea and Westminster.

"12 patients were transported to hospital with minor injuries - six to Chelsea and Westminster, four to St Thomas' and two to Charing Cross."

A Transport for London spokesman said: "The police and emergency services are attending the scene and we are working closely with them.

"There will be a full investigation into this incident."

Plough Road, near Clapham Junction Rail station, remains closed


Edited by thatone1967 on Wednesday 16th December 12:13

Eric Mc

125,680 posts

295 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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Listen to Bob Newharts "Bus Driver School" track. As relevant today as it ever was.

johnfm

13,751 posts

280 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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What happened to 'the man on the Claphma Omnibus'?

fido

18,915 posts

285 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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Eric Mc said:
Listen to Bob Newharts "Bus Driver School" track. As relevant today as it ever was.
So is 'Dancing on the Ceiling' by Lionel Richie.

Kermit power

29,622 posts

243 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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So which of the early posters is going to be the first to apologise to the bus driver now that the lorry driver has apparently been arrested for dangerous driving! hehe

CraigW

12,248 posts

312 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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I did say "this may or may not be the bus driver's fault"

ChapppeRS

4,483 posts

221 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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I blame top gear! They do all these features racing MPVs and campers, buses and airport machinary and have no thought for what ideas they're putting into the minds of bus drivers who think it's "cool" to race around the streets with no regard to anyone's safety!

Clarkson should be banned from having SIGHT.





......oh wait, no.

bobbylondonuk

2,205 posts

220 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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ChapppeRS said:
I blame top gear! They do all these features racing MPVs and campers, buses and airport machinary and have no thought for what ideas they're putting into the minds of bus drivers who think it's "cool" to race around the streets with no regard to anyone's safety!

Clarkson should be banned from having SIGHT.





......oh wait, no.
perfectly acceptable argument in socialist britain!

welsh blackbird

692 posts

274 months

Thursday 17th December 2009
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johnfm said:
What happened to 'the man on the Claphma Omnibus'?
I was waiting for that one.

I wonder what he thinks?

Edited by welsh blackbird on Thursday 17th December 00:23

Glassman

24,998 posts

245 months

Thursday 17th December 2009
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From the picture, it looks like the truck driver forgot he had 2/3m of tracks over-hanging his cab as he pulled up to the road.