CMD goes for the Queen too....!
CMD goes for the Queen too....!
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jshell

Original Poster:

12,103 posts

235 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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CMD pre-berating the Queens speech!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8363878.stm

Smart roadster

769 posts

256 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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Surely he is going for El Gordo for bothing to make the queen speak? As Gordon will be on the dole long before any of these anouncements can become law

tegwin

1,682 posts

236 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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If the queen decides she does not agree with what she is being asked to "speak".... can she/has she ever abstained from giving the speach?

Surley the government are her puppets... not the other way about???!?

BruceV8

3,325 posts

277 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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Smart roadster said:
Surely he is going for El Gordo for bothing to make the queen speak? As Gordon will be on the dole long before any of these anouncements can become law
Agreed. He's attacking Labour's use of the Queen's speech as the opening shot of their election campaign.

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

263 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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I thought the opening shot of their election campaign was the very public, once in a lifetime, opportunity to see the fat fker run? And, we've got months of this to come! Expect to hear the word 'global' repeated until you've got a permanent nose bleed.

NismoGT

1,634 posts

220 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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"Dig deeper into any of his plans and you'll find pettiness masquerading as principle."

Well we know Winky & Nu-Labour are facing a good kicking at the next GE , so they will pull out all the stops in the run up.

B Oeuf

39,731 posts

314 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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BruceV8 said:
Smart roadster said:
Surely he is going for El Gordo for bothing to make the queen speak? As Gordon will be on the dole long before any of these anouncements can become law
Agreed. He's attacking Labour's use of the Queen's speech as the opening shot of their election campaign.
yes

Does she have to deliver this propaganda?

Edited by B Oeuf on Tuesday 17th November 15:37

s2art

18,942 posts

283 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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B Oeuf said:
BruceV8 said:
Smart roadster said:
Surely he is going for El Gordo for bothing to make the queen speak? As Gordon will be on the dole long before any of these anouncements can become law
Agreed. He's attacking Labour's use of the Queen's speech as the opening shot of their election campaign.
yes

Does she have to deliver this propoganda?
I think so, unless it contradicts her coronation oath in some way.

B Oeuf

39,731 posts

314 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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s2art said:
B Oeuf said:
BruceV8 said:
Smart roadster said:
Surely he is going for El Gordo for bothing to make the queen speak? As Gordon will be on the dole long before any of these anouncements can become law
Agreed. He's attacking Labour's use of the Queen's speech as the opening shot of their election campaign.
yes

Does she have to deliver this propoganda?
I think so, unless it contradicts her coronation oath in some way.
In that case she must do it wearing a clowns nose, tache and glasses

Halb

53,012 posts

213 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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tegwin said:
If the queen decides she does not agree with what she is being asked to "speak".... can she/has she ever abstained from giving the speach?

Surley the government are her puppets... not the other way about???!?
Maybe 200 years ago.

Zod

35,295 posts

288 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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Halb said:
tegwin said:
If the queen decides she does not agree with what she is being asked to "speak".... can she/has she ever abstained from giving the speach?

Surley the government are her puppets... not the other way about???!?
Maybe 200 years ago.
Over 300 years ago actually. Civil War and Glorous Revolution both took place in the 17th Century.

BruceV8

3,325 posts

277 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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tegwin said:
If the queen decides she does not agree with what she is being asked to "speak".... can she/has she ever abstained from giving the speach?

Surley the government are her puppets... not the other way about???!?
Not without provoking a constitutional crisis, which Labour would just love as most of them, deep down, have republican sympathies. Best to play along nicely and let Labour start any crisis....

BOR

5,146 posts

285 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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B Oeuf said:
Does she have to deliver this propaganda?
She does what she's told, and she does it when she's told.

s2art

18,942 posts

283 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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BOR said:
B Oeuf said:
Does she have to deliver this propaganda?
She does what she's told, and she does it when she's told.
Only up to a point.

Yertis

19,714 posts

296 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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BOR said:
B Oeuf said:
Does she have to deliver this propaganda?
She does what she's told, and she does it when she's told.
Like all good Germans...

johnfm

13,751 posts

280 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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BOR said:
B Oeuf said:
Does she have to deliver this propaganda?
She does what she's told, and she does it when she's told.
I see the chips are well balanced - one on each shoulder....

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

239 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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All I want to hear her say is that she has sacked the lot of them and call an election.

DWP

1,232 posts

245 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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BOR said:
B Oeuf said:
Does she have to deliver this propaganda?
She does what she's told, and she does it when she's told.
I once heard a very senior diplomat refer to the Royal Family as "the very highly paid help" he was not a labour man by any means.

edited to add; this weeks Queen's speech is probably the biggest waste of her time one can think of.

Edited by DWP on Tuesday 17th November 23:23

Halb

53,012 posts

213 months

Wednesday 18th November 2009
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Zod said:
Halb said:
tegwin said:
If the queen decides she does not agree with what she is being asked to "speak".... can she/has she ever abstained from giving the speach?

Surley the government are her puppets... not the other way about???!?
Maybe 200 years ago.
Over 300 years ago actually. Civil War and Glorous Revolution both took place in the 17th Century.
I know when they took place. It wasn't so cut and dry as that. George III and others still had real power and influence, which slowly eroded over many years. Most of which occurred in Victoria's reign.
said:
Queen Victoria's reign marked the gradual establishment of a modern constitutional monarchy. A series of legal reforms saw the House of Commons' power increase, at the expense of the House of Lords and the monarchy, with the monarch's role becoming gradually more symbolic. Since Victoria's reign the monarch has had only, in Walter Bagehot's words, "the right to be consulted, the right to advise, and the right to warn".[28]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_of_the_Unite...
Edited by Halb on Wednesday 18th November 08:19