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KaraK

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13,824 posts

239 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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So now advisors get sacked for giving advice that isn't what they want to hear:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8334774.stm






Edited by KaraK on Friday 30th October 17:29

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

247 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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No doubt in response to the abuse that smith got on QT this week mad just goes to show what a pathetic and vindictive bunch they all are

Marf

22,907 posts

271 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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Yep it sucks.

What summed up his stance for me was hearing him on Radio4 the other day. He said something along the lines of "tonight, no child will die as a result of smoking cannabis, taking an ecstasy tablet, or taking LSD, but at least one under 18 will die of alcohol poisoning".

Edited by Marf on Friday 30th October 17:31

Bullett

11,181 posts

214 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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Kind of proves his point quite effectively though.


turbobloke

117,219 posts

290 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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Cronyism is what's expected from cronies, if it doesn't happen...

BBC Article said:
He accused ministers of devaluing and distorting evidence...
So he's joined a very long queue. Pick a topic from exam grades to speed cameras to weapons of mass destruction to climate change to (etc).

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

239 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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dissent or free thinking will not be tolerated.

you will be assimilated!

Resistance is futile

edited because my spell checker didn't know what i meant as opposed to wot I writ

Edited by odyssey2200 on Friday 30th October 17:57

Strangely Brown

15,835 posts

261 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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odyssey2200 said:
descent or free thinking will not be tolerated.
Is that what is known as "getting down"? I can see why they might not like that.

Eric Mc

125,680 posts

295 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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I wonder did the line of questions fired at Ms Smith last night on QT prove the last straw?

Edited by Eric Mc on Friday 30th October 17:55

964Cup

1,626 posts

267 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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Do you think Johnson, or any of this shower, actually knows what "advice" means? I wish there was any evidence that the other lot would be any different.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

279 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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He should consider himself lucky they didn't do a Dr Kelly on him

Marf

22,907 posts

271 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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sleep envy said:
He should consider himself lucky they didn't do a Dr Kelly on him
Wait, your not suggesting Bliar and chums had another countries security services off him, are you? scratchchin

hairykrishna

14,506 posts

233 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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Apparently the breaking news is now that he's referring to the PM's comments about cannabis being 'lethal' as irrational. Which they were.

Marf

22,907 posts

271 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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I just found it amazing that Her Smithness was still trotting out the same old pap about cannabis being stronger.

Have they not heard of hash? There have been varieties of hash available since the dawn of time that are more powerful than the skunk she keeps bleating on about.

I wish I could find some of this ultra mega knockout skunk rolleyes

hairykrishna

14,506 posts

233 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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Marf said:
I just found it amazing that Her Smithness was still trotting out the same old pap about cannabis being stronger.

Have they not heard of hash? There have been varieties of hash available since the dawn of time that are more powerful than the skunk she keeps bleating on about.

I wish I could find some of this ultra mega knockout skunk rolleyes
Neatly dissected on Bad Science;

http://www.badscience.net/2007/03/reefer-badness/

Marf

22,907 posts

271 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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hairykrishna said:
Marf said:
I just found it amazing that Her Smithness was still trotting out the same old pap about cannabis being stronger.

Have they not heard of hash? There have been varieties of hash available since the dawn of time that are more powerful than the skunk she keeps bleating on about.

I wish I could find some of this ultra mega knockout skunk rolleyes
Neatly dissected on Bad Science;

http://www.badscience.net/2007/03/reefer-badness/
Indeed, and here we have the point

"That’s not even a crystal in a plant pot. That’s impossible. That would require more THC to be present in the plant than the total volume of space taken up by the plant itself. That would require matter to be condensed."

Herbal cannabis can only get so strong, the plant cannot sustain over a given amount of THC production, hence my comment about hash being stronger, as you isolate the THC from the plant to create it.

Edited by Marf on Friday 30th October 18:13

DangerousMike

11,327 posts

222 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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Another example of this is the advice sought by the EU on fisheries: Stop fishing them now or you will drive the cod to extinction... guess what... they decided to lower quotas instead of implement a total ban...

JagLover

46,778 posts

265 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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It is rather sad that our drugs policy should be decided mainly on the basis of hysteria, prejudice and accidents of history.

As the Professor pointed out some banned drugs are less harmful, and less addictive, then the legal ones (alcohol and nicotine).

I wonder if any government would brave enough to have a rational drugs policy.

Marf

22,907 posts

271 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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Professor Nutt is about to appear on Newsnight.

ATG

23,773 posts

302 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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Home Secretary tries to look decisive and no-nonsense ... but just looks completely feeble and silly. Can't explain why the Prof is wrong, so just sack him instead. What an inadequate little penis he is. Depressing to see the shadow Home Secretary all but backing the incumbent moron.

DangerousMike

11,327 posts

222 months

Saturday 31st October 2009
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I'm glad this is such a big story, the goverment has acted completely irrationally, all Prof. Nutt has done is state observed facts. I saw an interview with him in a new clip just now where he notes that the government wants to pretend it is basing its decisions on hard science and the evidence provided by it, but is actually just making a "moral" choice (on behalf of us.. thanks). How it can be immoral to put something in your mouth/lungs/bloodstream by your own choice, I don't know...