Tracey Emin in threat to leave over tax

Tracey Emin in threat to leave over tax

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Puggit

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254 months

Sunday 4th October 2009
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8289295.stm
bbc said:
Artist Emin may quit UK over tax

Artist Tracey Emin has said she is thinking of leaving the UK in protest about being overtaxed.

In a Sunday Times interview she said she was "very seriously considering leaving Britain," adding: "I'm simply not willing to pay tax at 50%."

The government's 50p tax rate for incomes of more than £150,000 will be introduced in April.

Emin said she is considering France because she thinks it has lower taxes and appreciates the arts more.

She said: "So much here is simply not working now. The taxes are too high, there aren't enough incentives to work hard, and our politicians have put me off. We're paying through the nose for everything."

'Importance of culture'

Referring to the new tax, she said: "I reckon it would mean me paying about 65p in every pound with tax, National Insurance and so on."

Emin said the Labour government had no understanding for the arts.

"At least in France their politicians have always understood the importance of culture and they have traditionally helped out artists with subsidy and some tax advantages," she said.

"We simply have what I call 'ambition politicians' who go from one department to another for career reasons," she said.

"We should never have got involved in either Iraq or Afghanistan. Nor should we have bid for the Olympics, which we've now got and cannot afford," Emin added.

The new tax rate, announced in April's Budget, broke Labour's 2005 manifesto pledge not to raise income tax for high earners during this Parliament.

The government estimated the higher rate would raise £1.13bn next year.
I'm not sure how to take this - in principle I agree with her (despite not earning enough to be in the top bracket), but on the other side I'd love to see her leave.

Also, she deserves to be taxed at that rate, it's not like she deserves the cash!

Eric Mc

122,700 posts

271 months

Sunday 4th October 2009
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Every cloud has a silver lining.

Pesty

42,655 posts

262 months

Sunday 4th October 2009
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Wait a minute isn't she a left wing socialist type?

its seems so. Careful what you wish for eh tracy.

"she has a self-declared hatred of Margaret Thatcher"
"Although she did not vote at the 2005 general election, Emin had previously always backed Labour"

Principles do not apply to artists it seems

Edited by Pesty on Sunday 4th October 15:23

sstein

6,249 posts

260 months

Sunday 4th October 2009
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Why doesn't she deserve the cash ?

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

210 months

Sunday 4th October 2009
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Pesty said:
Wait a minute isn't she a left wing socialist type?
The worst kind

A rich socialist

Puggit

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48,768 posts

254 months

Sunday 4th October 2009
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sstein said:
Why doesn't she deserve the cash ?
You think this is worth £150k?


sstein

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260 months

Sunday 4th October 2009
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Puggit said:
sstein said:
Why doesn't she deserve the cash ?
You think this is worth £150k?

Personally, no. But someone does and it's not up-to me to determine what is and isn't art. So I wouldn't say she doesn't deserve the cash.

She creates a product and their is a market for that product, my opinion of her output doesn't change that fact.

Asterix

24,438 posts

234 months

Sunday 4th October 2009
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She always looks like she's grubby - needs a wash.

turbobloke

106,967 posts

266 months

Sunday 4th October 2009
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She ought to leave a couple of assets behind, in the national interest.


elster

17,517 posts

216 months

Sunday 4th October 2009
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Pesty said:
Wait a minute isn't she a left wing socialist type?

its seems so. Careful what you wish for eh tracy.

"she has a self-declared hatred of Margaret Thatcher"
"Although she did not vote at the 2005 general election, Emin had previously always backed Labour"

Principles do not apply to artists it seems

Edited by Pesty on Sunday 4th October 15:23
Same applies to all people who are on the breadline who suddenly have money and realise. Oh fk...I'm off.

Cotty

40,113 posts

290 months

Sunday 4th October 2009
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She makes more than £150,000 a year? Im in the wrong job. I need to start selling crap to luvvies.

El Guapo

2,787 posts

196 months

Sunday 4th October 2009
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turbobloke said:
She ought to leave a couple of assets behind, in the national interest.

Silicone, dude

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

223 months

Sunday 4th October 2009
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turbobloke said:
She ought to leave a couple of assets behind, in the national interest.

Pity there attached to this


Fittster

20,120 posts

219 months

Sunday 4th October 2009
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Puggit said:
sstein said:
Why doesn't she deserve the cash ?
You think this is worth £150k?

Is that any worse than some of the financial products dreamt up in Canary Wharf? What something is worth is dependent on what people will pay.

Oakey

27,761 posts

222 months

Sunday 4th October 2009
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Fittster said:
Puggit said:
sstein said:
Why doesn't she deserve the cash ?
You think this is worth £150k?

Is that any worse than some of the financial products dreamt up in Canary Wharf? What something is worth is dependent on what people will pay.
Why would anyone want to pay a ridiculous amount of money for something they can recreate themselves every morning on a daily basis?

elster

17,517 posts

216 months

Sunday 4th October 2009
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Oakey said:
Why would anyone want to pay a ridiculous amount of money for something they can recreate themselves every morning on a daily basis?
You could apply that to most fashion items.

Spiritual_Beggar

4,833 posts

200 months

Sunday 4th October 2009
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I'm strictly with the OP on this.

On one hand, I completely agree with what she is saying.

On the other, She's bloody annoying, and I'd probably be there to help put her bags on whatever form of transport she decides to take out of here.

Oakey

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222 months

Sunday 4th October 2009
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elster said:
Oakey said:
Why would anyone want to pay a ridiculous amount of money for something they can recreate themselves every morning on a daily basis?
You could apply that to most fashion items.
I just don't 'get' that crap above though. If you were rich and bought that, what would you do with it? Display it in the entrance hall of your large mansion? It looks st! It's not 'artistic', it is what it is, an unmade bed, a scenario that is reminiscent of teenage bedrooms the country over. The only difference being those teenagers won't get megabucks for their mess. And yet she has the cheek to say "there's no incentive for hard work". 'Hard work'? Is she having a laugh? It must have taken her all of five minutes to produce that st.

DJC

23,563 posts

242 months

Sunday 4th October 2009
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Bye.

Fittster

20,120 posts

219 months

Sunday 4th October 2009
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Oakey said:
elster said:
Oakey said:
Why would anyone want to pay a ridiculous amount of money for something they can recreate themselves every morning on a daily basis?
You could apply that to most fashion items.
I just don't 'get' that crap above though. If you were rich and bought that, what would you do with it? Display it in the entrance hall of your large mansion? It looks st! It's not 'artistic', it is what it is, an unmade bed, a scenario that is reminiscent of teenage bedrooms the country over. The only difference being those teenagers won't get megabucks for their mess. And yet she has the cheek to say "there's no incentive for hard work". 'Hard work'? Is she having a laugh? It must have taken her all of five minutes to produce that st.
How long did it take Duchamp to create his fountain?

By the same token how quickly can a banker whip up a CDO?