7 figure's worth of gold found and ofcourse its the crowns..

7 figure's worth of gold found and ofcourse its the crowns..

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vz-r_dave

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3,469 posts

224 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/staffor...

So its the fking crowns is it? How on earth do they come to that conclusion. This sort of stuff winds me up, the guy that found it should have kept his mouth shut and shipped it out of the UK. The greedy bds that they are eh.

OnTheOverrun

3,965 posts

183 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
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The TV news earlier said it will be sold and the proceeds of the sale split 50% to the finder and 50% the landowner.

Kermit power

29,432 posts

219 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
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You're missing the point of treasure trove.

The state doesn't just take it and leave the finders with nothing. It is valued by the British museum, and the value is then paid out to them. All treasure trove means is that in effect the state reserves itself the right of first refusal of anything like this.

Personally, I see it as a pretty good way of ensuring that truly significant finds stay in this country, rather than being shipped off to the highest bidder. OK, slightly hypocritical given the Elgin Marbles and the like, but I'd rather have it this way.

FourWheelDrift

89,447 posts

290 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
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It is good that it is kept in the country unfortunately the British Museum will significantly under value the items. The finder would get more if they sold privately or even at auction, which is why so many times these items aren't made public. Which is bad for learning about the history of the country and possibly losing a unique piece.

lazyitus

19,926 posts

272 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
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Still, fantastic find. thumbup

Again, human greed rears it's ugly head. Not a criticism but an observation.

vz-r_dave

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224 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
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Ok thanks for the information regarding the split.

ewenm

28,506 posts

251 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
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vz-r_dave said:
Ok thanks for the information regarding the split.
Like it said in the article you linked to:
BBC Article said:
...the hoard would be valued by the British Museum and the money passed on to Mr Herbert and the landowner...
readit

Pesty

42,655 posts

262 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
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Any more pictures around yet?

s3fella

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193 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
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Winky's pxssed off he didn't have chance to sell it at the 40 year low point with all the rest...s

Pesty

42,655 posts

262 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
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Yeah he had already sent off for his 'money for gold' pre paid envelope

Baby Huey

4,881 posts

205 months

Thursday 24th September 2009
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My dad used to be into metal detecting and spent quite some time around the Lichfield area. He must be gutted!

Nero601

1,566 posts

202 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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Pesty said:
Yeah he had already sent off for his 'money for gold' pre paid envelope
here have a rofl

vz-r_dave

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224 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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ewenm said:
vz-r_dave said:
Ok thanks for the information regarding the split.
Like it said in the article you linked to:
BBC Article said:
...the hoard would be valued by the British Museum and the money passed on to Mr Herbert and the landowner...
readit
Thanks again, I must have been on one yesterday.

Parrot of Doom

23,075 posts

240 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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vz-r_dave said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/staffor...

So its the fking crowns is it? How on earth do they come to that conclusion. This sort of stuff winds me up, the guy that found it should have kept his mouth shut and shipped it out of the UK. The greedy bds that they are eh.
It has nothing to do with greed, and everything to do with ensuring that important and irreplaceable historical artefacts remain in this country.

Bluebarge

4,519 posts

184 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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vz-r_dave said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/staffor...

So its the fking crowns is it? How on earth do they come to that conclusion. This sort of stuff winds me up, the guy that found it should have kept his mouth shut and shipped it out of the UK. The greedy bds that they are eh.
So the Crown is greedy for keeping the gold, but the finder wouldn't be if he shipped it out of the country on the quiet? Eh?

Actually, all unclaimed property (land, gold, whatever)belongs to the Crown. It's been that way since 1066, because it was that way under the Norman system of law. Bit late in the day to be getting excited about it.

Eric Mc

122,700 posts

271 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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Shows how people like the OP are ready to assume the worst intentions of government and politicians at every opportunity. We are living in very dangerous and corrosive times.


As for the find, it is fantastic and should provide a lot of data about Anglo-Saxon times. I wonder how close to the Curburough Sprint Track the find was?

turbobloke

106,966 posts

266 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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Guam said:
Eric Mc said:
Shows how people like the OP are ready to assume the worst intentions of government and politicians at every opportunity. We are living in very dangerous and corrosive times.


As for the find, it is fantastic and should provide a lot of data about Anglo-Saxon times. I wonder how close to the Curburough Sprint Track the find was?
I agree oddly there has never been a "finders keepers" law in this country to my knowledge.

The current sytem is reasonably fair and allows for the nation to keep its cultural heritage whilst compensating the guys who find it to a reasonable level.

Why anyone gets worked up about it I dont understand its not much different anywhere in the world where antiquities are concerned. Archaeology is a key part of our historical analysis and without the context within which these things are discovered, the articles themselves become worse than useless (save their intrinsic value). For me I reckon the guys who found this should be applauded for doing everything by the numbers and giving the scientists an opportunity to examine the site in the fullest detail before contextual evidence is lost.

I guess this just shows how poorly educated a goodly section of our society is, that they fail to understand what is involved in an archeological dig!


Cheers
Agreed (Guam).

As to assuming the worst in politicians, this is surely a sound response based on a considerable track record of the worst. Corrosive and dangerous are adjectives I'd apply to MPs rather than those watching with a mixture of horror and disgust at what MPs do that they shouldn't and what they don't do that they should. Politicians' sins of commission and omission are legion.

Eric Mc

122,700 posts

271 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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They certainly don't do their own cause much good - but creating an atmosphere whereby NOTHING politicians or (in this case) government do is considered good or worthwhile is extremely dangerous for society.

rypt

2,548 posts

196 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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Eric Mc said:
They certainly don't do their own cause much good - but creating an atmosphere whereby NOTHING politicians or (in this case) government do is considered good or worthwhile is extremely dangerous for society.
And it is their own fault for doing it.

When was the last time a politician gave a straight yes/no answer to even a simple question.

Fittster

20,120 posts

219 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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Eric Mc said:
extremely dangerous for society.
It depends if you wish to continue with the current model for organising society.