27 Years in prison & innocent

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Topboy

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653 posts

265 months

Thursday 17th September 2009
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Another example of how the justice system can get it so so wrong

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/82602...

Eric Mc

122,700 posts

271 months

Thursday 17th September 2009
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He didn't help his cause by confessing to the crime in the first place.

Itr is amazing how often individuals confess to crimes they didn't actually commit.

Topboy

Original Poster:

653 posts

265 months

Thursday 17th September 2009
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Eric Mc said:
He didn't help his cause by confessing to the crime in the first place.

Itr is amazing how often individuals confess to crimes they didn't actually commit.
True and Hodgson has obviously got some issues but the police could have used DNA profiling 20 years ago for this.

Add to the fact that the Police ruled out David Lace even after Lace admitted to the police that he committed the murder only goes to show how wrong things can go.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

237 months

Thursday 17th September 2009
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The advent of widespread DNA technology has freed a number of wrongly accused prisoners over here.

militantmandy

3,829 posts

192 months

Thursday 17th September 2009
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Eric Mc said:
He didn't help his cause by confessing to the crime in the first place.

Itr is amazing how often individuals confess to crimes they didn't actually commit.
Some people just can't deal with the pressure of being accused and questioned about a crime.

Eric Mc

122,700 posts

271 months

Thursday 17th September 2009
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Have you read "The Innocent Man" by John Grisham?

Regarding DNA testing 20 years ago. The first EVER case solved by DNA testing was in 1983, 26 years ago - so 20 years ago was still early days for these techniques. There have been anumber of major breakthroughs in more recent years which serves to highlight even more miscarriages of justice.

JJCW

2,449 posts

192 months

Thursday 17th September 2009
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Really shows the case against capital punishment.

Disco_Dale

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216 months

Thursday 17th September 2009
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JJCW said:
Really shows the case against capital punishment.
Not according to "PH Law"
We should have just hung all 7 of the b*st*rds who confessed to it.
That'll learn 'em!

eldar

22,522 posts

202 months

Thursday 17th September 2009
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Eric Mc said:
He didn't help his cause by confessing to the crime in the first place.

Itr is amazing how often individuals confess to crimes they didn't actually commit.
30 years ago the police had advanced techniques for persuading people people to confess, more advanced even than Cardinal Biggles and his comfy chair.

The worrying bit is the actual killer confessed after 7 years, and was ignored.

Odhran

579 posts

189 months

Thursday 17th September 2009
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Just look at the Birmingham 6 or the Guilford 4... It's scary how wrong the 'justice' system can get it sometimes frown

thehawk

9,335 posts

213 months

Thursday 17th September 2009
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JJCW said:
Really shows the case against capital punishment.
Not at all.

We've had immigrants that have committed rape and murder, quite regularly, should we put a halt to all immigration?

DSM2

3,624 posts

206 months

Friday 18th September 2009
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thehawk said:
JJCW said:
Really shows the case against capital punishment.
Not at all.

We've had immigrants that have committed rape and murder, quite regularly, should we put a halt to all immigration?
If you say so.................

Eric Mc

122,700 posts

271 months

Friday 18th September 2009
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thehawk said:
JJCW said:
Really shows the case against capital punishment.
Not at all.

We've had immigrants that have committed rape and murder, quite regularly, should we put a halt to all immigration?
Guilty perople should suffer whatever fate the law decrees. Innocent people shouild not suffer that fate. This discussion is about innocent people who have been found guilty through poor policing, forced confessions or bad evidence and argument presented in court.

Snoop Bagg

1,879 posts

200 months

Friday 18th September 2009
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Thats nothing really.

In 1972 a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the PH-Team.

lord summerisle

8,147 posts

231 months

Friday 18th September 2009
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Eric Mc said:
He didn't help his cause by confessing to the crime in the first place.

Itr is amazing how often individuals confess to crimes they didn't actually commit.
As did Timothy Evens...
confessed to the murder of his wife and daughter. and swung for it (having been found guilty of murdering his daughter.)

the real killer was hung in 1953

andymadmak

14,833 posts

276 months

Friday 18th September 2009
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JJCW said:
Really shows the case against capital punishment.
No, it does not.

DBSV8

5,958 posts

244 months

Friday 18th September 2009
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eldar said:
30 years ago the police had advanced techniques for persuading people to confess, .
like this


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHP3Jih_rfA