Anyone but Brown
Discussion
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/art...
Times said:
Nine months at most from a general election, a Populus poll for The Times suggests that 48 per cent of voters believe that “literally anyone” from Labour’s ranks could do better, without naming alternatives.
And the arrival of A.N.Other unelected Leader & PM will do...nothing
Labour are doomed with or without Brown
Voters are increasingly writing off Labour as fewer people believe that a change of leader or policy would help the party to win the next general election.
David Dimbleby - "....and now the returning officer moves to the front of the dias and will give the results of the Labour Leadership election".
Returning officer "As the returning officer for the Labour Leadership election I will now announce the numbers of the votes cast in no particular order. Margaret Becket...."
David Dimbleby (hushed voice) - "Witch Party"
Returning officer - "...........No votes"
Returning officer - "John Prescott......."
David Dimbleby (hushed voice) - "Pie Eaters Anonymous"
Returning officer - "...........No votes"
Returning officer - "Gordon Judas Brown......."
David Dimbleby (hushed voice) - "Candidate Until Next Time.............Party"
Returning officer - "...........No votes"
David Dimbleby - "oh, there's a surprise"
Returning officer - "Mrs Edith Marples......"
David Dimbleby (hushed voice) - "The Tea Lady"
Returning officer - "...........65,784 votes"
David Dimbleby - "Well there we have it, Mrs Edith Marples the tea lady from Number 10 has been elected leader of the Labour Party."
PS. Shamelessly stolen idea from Blackadder II
Returning officer "As the returning officer for the Labour Leadership election I will now announce the numbers of the votes cast in no particular order. Margaret Becket...."
David Dimbleby (hushed voice) - "Witch Party"
Returning officer - "...........No votes"
Returning officer - "John Prescott......."
David Dimbleby (hushed voice) - "Pie Eaters Anonymous"
Returning officer - "...........No votes"
Returning officer - "Gordon Judas Brown......."
David Dimbleby (hushed voice) - "Candidate Until Next Time.............Party"
Returning officer - "...........No votes"
David Dimbleby - "oh, there's a surprise"
Returning officer - "Mrs Edith Marples......"
David Dimbleby (hushed voice) - "The Tea Lady"
Returning officer - "...........65,784 votes"
David Dimbleby - "Well there we have it, Mrs Edith Marples the tea lady from Number 10 has been elected leader of the Labour Party."
PS. Shamelessly stolen idea from Blackadder II
crazy though it sounds, I think if Labour were to adopt a new leader who would start to look, sound and 'feel' like Cameron, they're in with a chance.
Apart from Cameron and Hague, who is really seen as government material for the tories? George Osborne really is terrible.
Labour have made all kinds of disasters worse, but I think its Brown who'll carry the can. Get shot of him NOW, and Labour is in with a shot.
(come back Tony, all is forgiven...)
Apart from Cameron and Hague, who is really seen as government material for the tories? George Osborne really is terrible.
Labour have made all kinds of disasters worse, but I think its Brown who'll carry the can. Get shot of him NOW, and Labour is in with a shot.
(come back Tony, all is forgiven...)
According Guido Fawkes, Sister Harman seems to be making a move...
"CCHQ will be all a quiver at the news that Harriet is back on maneuvers, which she will no doubt deny later today if past performance is any guide. Her team of volunteers are polling Constituency Labour Party branches for their views on the party leader. Guido recognises push-polling when he sees it: party activists are being asked to rank Gordon and herself as to who is the “best person to sell the Labour Party” on a scale of 0 to 5.
It would be very, very interesting if the results “accidently” leaked…"
http://order-order.com/
"CCHQ will be all a quiver at the news that Harriet is back on maneuvers, which she will no doubt deny later today if past performance is any guide. Her team of volunteers are polling Constituency Labour Party branches for their views on the party leader. Guido recognises push-polling when he sees it: party activists are being asked to rank Gordon and herself as to who is the “best person to sell the Labour Party” on a scale of 0 to 5.
It would be very, very interesting if the results “accidently” leaked…"
http://order-order.com/
Edited by chris watton on Tuesday 15th September 13:01
The Times said:
The Tories are, however, doing less well than Labour in opposition in 1996 (on 50 per cent) or the Tories in 1978 (48 per cent).
I did find this bit interesting, to me it suggests either that Labour have done a good job in cementing the support from their core voters, thus reducing the size of the swinging voters (the massive increase in the public sector could well explain this). Or is it that the Tories are still doing a bad job of presenting themselves as a viable alternative?
Bit of both I suspect...
BarnatosGhost said:
crazy though it sounds, I think if Labour were to adopt a new leader who would start to look, sound and 'feel' like Cameron, they're in with a chance.
Apart from Cameron and Hague, who is really seen as government material for the tories? George Osborne really is terrible.
Labour have made all kinds of disasters worse, but I think its Brown who'll carry the can. Get shot of him NOW, and Labour is in with a shot.
(come back Tony, all is forgiven...)
No, no, no.Apart from Cameron and Hague, who is really seen as government material for the tories? George Osborne really is terrible.
Labour have made all kinds of disasters worse, but I think its Brown who'll carry the can. Get shot of him NOW, and Labour is in with a shot.
(come back Tony, all is forgiven...)
People dislike the second hand car salesman approach of CMD, but they detest Winky, Bliar and the vaseline arsed fairy that is Peter the Pansy Mandelson.
I hope that this election will spell the end of Old and Nu Labia, and we can usher in some sensible, strategic centre right politics for a very welcome change.
I don't know if Jacqui Smith has the 'balls' for having a go at this after her expenses shenanigans (her of the pr0n-watching hubby), apart from this aspect of her recent past I think she would be quite popular in the party and tbh having a women in-charge for the election is just the sort of desperate/vote-winning move that Labour will have to resort-to IF they can be brave-enough to face-down Broon smartish. History shows they are a pretty spineless bunch though and likely to doom themselves by going against him.
I believe the labour party are well aware that "anyone but Brown" is a better candidate, and are keeping their powder dry for now.
The worst possible outcome is a new Labour leader in the new year, any perceived failings laid at the door of Meltdown, new start new opportunities and maybe even a woman in charge, and the proles fall for it.
Either that or a national emergency sometime around the end of April.
Edited for typo.
The worst possible outcome is a new Labour leader in the new year, any perceived failings laid at the door of Meltdown, new start new opportunities and maybe even a woman in charge, and the proles fall for it.
Either that or a national emergency sometime around the end of April.
Edited for typo.
Edited by FNG on Tuesday 15th September 13:53
chris watton said:
According Guido Fawkes, Sister Harman seems to be making a move...
"CCHQ will be all a quiver at the news that Harriet is back on maneuvers, which she will no doubt deny later today if past performance is any guide. Her team of volunteers are polling Constituency Labour Party branches for their views on the party leader. Guido recognises push-polling when he sees it: party activists are being asked to rank Gordon and herself as to who is the “best person to sell the Labour Party” on a scale of 0 to 5.
It would be very, very interesting if the results “accidently” leaked…"
http://order-order.com/
TBH, as Bad as Brown is....I think Harmann is the only person that, give a choice between the two, would make me vote Brown!"CCHQ will be all a quiver at the news that Harriet is back on maneuvers, which she will no doubt deny later today if past performance is any guide. Her team of volunteers are polling Constituency Labour Party branches for their views on the party leader. Guido recognises push-polling when he sees it: party activists are being asked to rank Gordon and herself as to who is the “best person to sell the Labour Party” on a scale of 0 to 5.
It would be very, very interesting if the results “accidently” leaked…"
http://order-order.com/
Edited by chris watton on Tuesday 15th September 13:01
I really can't stand her, and her backward thinking ideals. "Equality through positive discrimination" is one of the worst ideas I have ever heard!
turbobloke said:
Is it feasible and credible and constitutional to have two unlected PMs in a row?
Perfectly feasible and constitutional. Credible? The stock answer is to say the public have their opportunity to declare their support or otherwise at the ballot box in a few months' time.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff