Yet another Wee boiler

[Chris Type R]

The comments associated with the article make for interesting reading as well.

[Monki]

Couldn't make it up could you ?

[Bing o]

anonymous said:

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They had threatened to kill him, therefore I would argue that anything less than killing him was not excessive.

He even recovered to continue his crime spree.

Self defence is one aspect of US law we need to adopt.

[Chris Type R]

Bing o said:

anonymous said:

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They had threatened to kill him, therefore I would argue that anything less than killing him was not excessive.

He even recovered to continue his crime spree.

Self defence is one aspect of US law we need to adopt.

I think that the jury/judge deemed their actions to no longer be self defense, but adrenaline fueled retribution.

Personally I'd rather the perpetrator got a few free of charge knocks from the householder than £6k and the freedom to continue committing crime.

One of the article comments was rather amusing - something along the lines of "if that's what a millionaires house looks like in the UK, I'm glad I'm in the US"

[Bing o]

anonymous said:

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Wail said:

A millionaire businessman is facing jail for attacking a career criminal who had held his family hostage at knifepoint.
Munir Hussain, 52, was told he would be killed when three raiders invaded his home.

fk em. Someone steps up in my house and threatens to kill me, a severe beating would be a lucky escape. We are turning into a nation of ponces who treat criminals like they are human - they aren't, they are scum that need destroying.

[Road Pest]

Situation as I see it.

Someone has threatened to kill you. They have shown that they have intent to follow it through. The only disproportionate thing here is that the burglar wasn't killed. Is that why the guy's being threatened with jail because he didn't kill the burglar and let him get away to continue his crime spree?

[grumbledoak]

US Commenter said:

Yet another example of how far down the drain Formerly Great Britain has gone in only a few decades.

[Bing o]

anonymous said:

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I wouldn't.

And I'd sue the crim for a replacement cricket bat whilst I was at it.

[grumbledoak]

Bing o said:

I wouldn't.

^^^ Three armed men threatening to kill your kids? You should be quite within your rights to kill all three of them.

Edited by grumbledoak on Friday 11th September 10:11

[Digga]

anonymous said:

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Hang on, put yourself in Mr Hussain's place; your house has been broken into; you and your family has been tied and threatened not just with physical injury but death but the intruders. In that situation, I don't see the actions as excessive - I cannot see how thet law (or anyone else) expects the victims to be capable of rational thought in these sitations.

The fact that the scumbag recovered and went on to commit further crimes should be warning enough that what was dished out did not prove sufficient dterrrent. that the law fails to come down clearly on the side of those being burgled is a further insult to our collective freedom.

[hugo a gogo]

I'm not at all an advocate of violent vigilantism - but if someone had genuinely threatened me and my family with a knife like that, I would be in genuine fear of my life and that of my family
any chance I got to stop them, I would take that chance and I would continue until the threat had been removed
In the cold light of day you can say, "he was going to leave and never come back" but at the time I wouldn't risk that he was getting back on his feet and then going to try to use his knife

I that mean stamping on his head repeatedly until he was dead, so be it

good enough for the stockwell police

[Funk]

IMO, the second someone forces their way into your home and threatens to kill you at knifepoint they waive their rights to walk away without severe injury.

The family would not have sought out the burglar had he never broken into their home. I would not hesitate to make the most horrendous mess of anyone I found in my home. I have a drum kit in my bedroom and happen to have part of a cymbal stand lying around.

[Digga]

anonymous said:

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I think you've got up a bit gay this morning - don't worry, it can happen - and you need to have a word with yourself about this.

I abhor random, senseless violence - but this was not an example of it.

Furthermore, had the burglar been more permanently immoblisied in this incident, another family would have been saved the anguish and upset of being burgled. And let's face it, that just a crime he was caught for - there's probably a whole other load of stuff he did, subsequent to this, that he's unlikely to admit to.

Edited by Digga on Friday 11th September 10:28

[BertB]

Funk said:

IMO, the second someone forces their way into your home and threatens to kill you at knifepoint they waive their rights to walk away without severe injury.

Exactly how I see it, if you go as low as threatening women and children you deserve everything you get.

[jesusbuiltmycar]

Their actions stopped being self defence and became revenge ....

Saying that I think £6K for beating some scrote within a few inches of his life isn't too bad price to pay....

Edited by jesusbuiltmycar on Friday 11th September 10:33

[esselte]

Funk said:

IMO, the second someone forces their way into your home and threatens to kill you at knifepoint they waive their rights to walk away without severe injury.

The family would not have sought out the burglar had he never broken into their home. I would not hesitate to make the most horrendous mess of anyone I found in my home. I have a drum kit in my bedroom and happen to have part of a cymbal stand lying around.

The beating was done outside the house though,I think any claim of self defence will fail at that point,especially as the scrote was outnumbered 3 or 4 to one (not saying I wouldn't be tempted to do the same thing mind) I suppose the moral is to do a good job and hide the body...

[Digga]

anonymous said:

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No offence love.

[Monki]

esselte said:

Funk said:

IMO, the second someone forces their way into your home and threatens to kill you at knifepoint they waive their rights to walk away without severe injury.

The family would not have sought out the burglar had he never broken into their home. I would not hesitate to make the most horrendous mess of anyone I found in my home. I have a drum kit in my bedroom and happen to have part of a cymbal stand lying around.

The beating was done outside the house though,I think any claim of self defence will fail at that point,especially as the scrote was outnumbered 3 or 4 to one (not saying I wouldn't be tempted to do the same thing mind) I suppose the moral is to do a good job and hide the body...

I recommend a pig farmer or a kebab shop for disposing of the body

[hugo a gogo]

You got to starve the pigs for a few days, then the sight of a chopped-up body will look like curry to a pisshead. You gotta shave the heads of your victims, and pull the teeth out for the sake of the piggies' digestion. You could do this afterwards, of course, but you don't want to go sievin' through pig st, now do you? They will go through bone like butter. You need at least sixteen pigs to finish the job in one sitting, so be wary of any man who keeps a pig farm. They will go through a body that weighs 200 pounds in about eight minutes. That means that a single pig can consume two pounds of uncooked flesh every minute. Hence the expression, "as greedy as a pig".

Now put the kettle on, Errol

[FNG]

It does seem like the beating went beyond making sure the guy was incapacitated and posed no further threat, into an ongoing kicking driven by fear then anger then retribution. And for that reason I can see why they've been found guilty.

But I defy any reasonable and lawful person, when faced with a life threatening situation and coming out on top of it like that, to have complete control of their emotions and not to act on an adrenaline rush that they are completely unused to.

If you're not beating people up every week or breaking into their homes threatening to kill their kids, you're not accustomed to the feeling of being in a fight for your life. So a degree of over-reaction is natural and is only to be expected.