Royal mail strikes

[LaSarthe+Back]

Anyone see the news at lunch with Royal Mail having up to a million items undelievered?

Apparently on strike complaining about jobs, pay etc. Is anybody else thinking they should count themselves lucky to have jobs at the moment? If you don't like it, find another bloody job!

Many small businesses depend on their service and may possibly go under because invoices cannot be delivered and will go unpaid for longer than usual.

They should be sacked for bringing Royal Mail in to disrepute and their jobs should be given to people who will be grateful for them. Everyone wants more money, what if we all thought "going on strike for two weeks." Retards.

[Digga]

Post's certainly taking it's time at the moment - this must be why.

I'm sick of peabrained, mounbrathing, knuckle scraping union bosses being so utterly far up their own arse that they cannot see the bigger picture. This is surely a prime example of why the whole system needs a re-think, in order to prevent these morons from screwing up whole industries and the jobs of their feckless sheep union members.

That the unions in the most vital, but monopolised services - postal owrkers, tub train drivers - see fit to throw their toys out of the pram with disdainful abandon, without regard for the severe knock-on disruption to the wider economy surely underlines the need for change.

[FourWheelDrift]

I saw the title and hoped it was reporting an RAF bombing campaign.

[onomatopoeia]

LaSarthe+Back said:

Many small businesses depend on their service and may possibly go under because invoices cannot be delivered and will go unpaid for longer than usual.

Email. Seriously. I don't understand why a piece of paper is required to deliver an invoice. BT manage to send me a phone bill without using the royal mail, so do my electricity provider, so do a number of our suppliers in the office.

LaSarthe+Back said:

They should be sacked for bringing Royal Mail in to disrepute

I'm pretty sure that you can't sack people for going on strike, provided the procedures required to call the strike (notice, vote etc.) have been followed. It is a lot harder to call a strike legally than it was 25 years ago though.

[ascayman]

workshy s

[Digga]

onomatopoeia said:

LaSarthe+Back said:

Many small businesses depend on their service and may possibly go under because invoices cannot be delivered and will go unpaid for longer than usual.

Email. Seriously. I don't understand why a piece of paper is required to deliver an invoice. BT manage to send me a phone bill without using the royal mail, so do my electricity provider, so do a number of our suppliers in the office.

Have you thought that the damage is because a lot of small and/or cottage industry relies on the Royal BlackMail to send out their produce perhaps?

onomatopoeia said:

LaSarthe+Back said:

They should be sacked for bringing Royal Mail in to disrepute

I'm pretty sure that you can't sack people for going on strike, provided the procedures required to call the strike (notice, vote etc.) have been followed. It is a lot harder to call a strike legally than it was 25 years ago though.

Where the industry is a public service with an effective monoploy the fall-out from striking is too great to continue to allow this type of action IMHO. Espcecially when most private firms and their employees are struggling to survive.

The Police do not strike - why do the Posties take the moral lowground?

Edited by Digga on Thursday 10th September 16:13

[bonsai]

Digga said:

The Police do not strike - why do the Posties take the moral lowground?

Because they're lazy. To end up a postman you need to have dossed around in school and failed to get any qualifications. I did relief work as one during the holidays once so I speak from experience of the kind of people I was around.

Also the Fire Brigade had those strikes a few years back...

Edited by bonsai on Thursday 10th September 16:15

[Digga]

bonsai said:

Digga said:

The Police do not strike - why do the Posties take the moral lowground?

Because they're lazy. To end up a postman you need to have dossed around in school and failed to get any qualifications. I did relief work as one during the holidays once so I speak from experience of the kind of people I was around.

Also the Fire Brigade had those strikes a few years back...

Edited by bonsai on Thursday 10th September 16:15

Notice I did only mention the Police and not the fire service :lol: - Andy Gilchrist is a prime example of Neanderthal 70's throwback Union leader as you will ever find: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/...

[Lucas CAV]

they are retards -- there will always be post to deliver but this will just hasten the arrival of private delivery firms

[Man-At-Arms]

Lucas CAV said:

they are retards -- there will always be post to deliver but this will just hasten the arrival of private delivery firms

but then prices will increase
as the private company will only do the service if there's a healthy profit margin

the Government (by that, i mean you & me) cannot and will not subsidise these work shy basterds for much longer

[anonymous-user]

Silly postie, they should be glad they have jobs and not be pushing their luck too much. I'd say get rid of the unions... they all seem to be full of ambulance chasers anyway... imho

[Gedon]

All public sector unions are the same. I refuse to be a part of one.

Groupthink bullst led by idiots.

[Monki]

onomatopoeia said:

Email. Seriously. I don't understand why a piece of paper is required to deliver an invoice. BT manage to send me a phone bill without using the royal mail, so do my electricity provider, so do a number of our suppliers in the office.

Most of our suppliers use Royal Mail for sending punches, bushes etc as they contracts with Royal Mail to do so.
Knock on effect from the lazy spongers in the RM is that we lose money if our job is completed late due to none-arrival of parts, our customer loses money and so on with manufacturers missing launch dates for cars,planes boats etc which then results in redundancies as companies are not receiving the funds they need.

[Digga]

Man-At-Arms said:

Lucas CAV said:

they are retards -- there will always be post to deliver but this will just hasten the arrival of private delivery firms

but then prices will increase
as the private company will only do the service if there's a healthy profit margin

the Government (by that, i mean you & me) cannot and will not subsidise these work shy basterds for much longer

Which should reduce the amount of junk mail we receive.

[Odie]

I have a mate who works for Royal Mail and some of the stories he tells me are just scary.

Like the woman who went in for an eye operation, the specialist eye doctor told her to stay off work and signed her off. The Royal Mail company nurse then tried to countermand this saying that she was fit to work and if she didnt return to work disciplinary action would be taken, the woman refused to return, disciplinary action was taken and a "Tribunal" held this from what i heard was more like a kangaroo court, with the "defendant" unable to defend herself, no real evidence brought & just a bounch of managers making a decision about what punishment to give the woman. It got to the point were the doctor had to go in (wasting the doctors time), threaten to have the nurse struck off & have words with senior management in order for the matter to be resolved. Complete waste of everyones time..

I think the strikes are more to do with conditions rather than pay.

[Nickyboy]

From what i have heard its more over stuff like this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_practices

RM wants to modernise and suprisingly the staff dont want it.

My brothers a postie and when he's finished his round he goes home and has a kip whilst being paid, if they phone him and ask him to do something whilst he is at home then he insists on 2-3 hrs overtime to do it despite still being on shift and at home!! Its things like that which they want to stop

[gti tim]

Posties are going to be striking alot more - they are fighting against:

Job and finish - they think they should be allowed to go in, be paid for 8hrs yet work for 4 then go home, yet if they have to work even a few minutes past their 8hrs, then they should be paid overtime. Likewise, if they finish early they are claiming overtime for doing extra rounds while still paid for their first one.

Modernisation - rounds are being balanced and streamlined and as part of this, they are not replacing some who retire / are breaking up and merging rounds.

Payrise of 1.5% - they think they are worth more

All the above came from a militant postie i know who thinks its great, cant wait to get on the picket line, clains to totally hate his job yet works his days off and grabs overtime.

Basically, they are workshy and think they are important. It is not a skilled role, yet they think they are untouchable and can do as they want.

In my opinion, anyone on a wildcat strike should be sacked. Posties should be told these are the rules, we pay your wages. Work to the rules, or collect your P45. It's all too soft on them.

[FourWheelDrift]

Idiots managing idiots. Usual public sector practice.

[rich1231]

Where is the idiot fantasist who used to claim he had a blow up GF that worked for the RM?

[Oakey]

rich1231 said:

Where is the idiot fantasist who used to claim he had a blow up GF that worked for the RM?

stigmunfreud wasn't it?