Green belief interferes with job

[Ozone]

Heard this on the radio yesterday, a man employed by a company is taking them to court because his green beliefs conflicted with his his job so he refused carry out his work. I think he worked for a property company.
He was dismissed by his employer, so he is taking them to court on the grounds that his green ethics are the equivalent to a religion so he shouldn't be asked to do things that offend them.
It is being seriously considered that his belief should be taken in to account.

Now, if he thought his employer wasn't using green energy to power the office he could refuse to work, or any other bullst you can make up - piss boiler

[esselte]

Ozone said:

his green ethics are the equivalent to a religion

Isn't this what's always been said on here..?

[Ozone]

esselte said:

Ozone said:

his green ethics are the equivalent to a religion

Isn't this what's always been said on here..?

Yep, and now it seems the law will support it.

[Sisyphus]

It could be quite interesting to see what proof he uses to support his case but apart from that he's probably just another scrounging tosser caught up in the compo culture.

[Spiritual_Beggar]

esselte said:

Ozone said:

his green ethics are the equivalent to a religion

Isn't this what's always been said on here..?

Yup...and if this is upheld, get ready for a big ole' ststorm! This will set a dangerous precident.

[Eric Mc]

I hope he succeeds. If he does, it will confirm in law that such views are of a "belief" nature rather than proper science. It could turn out to be an "own goal"!.

[AndrewW-G]

esselte said:

Ozone said:

his green ethics are the equivalent to a religion

Isn't this what's always been said on here..?

yep

Green ehtics = a load of nonesense
Religion = a load of nonesense

[Ozone]

It seems that he lives his life to a strict code of recycling and not using planes etc, so it is being taken seriously on that basis.

[glazbagun]

Ozone said:

Now, if he thought his employer wasn't using green energy to power the office he could refuse to work, or any other bullst you can make up - piss boiler

Disagree. I don't see how treating it as an ethical/religious issue should neccesarily cause any problems or dangerous precidents. If one of Jehovah's Witnesses took a job as a Haematologist, then tried to sue his employer on ethical/religious grounds regarding the use of blood in medicine, he'd be laughed out of court. If he, or a Muslim or whatever took a job as a bus driver and refused to drive a bus with a blasphemous slogan written on it, then he'd might have a fair point. When courts screw up it's very well publicised, but I'm not one of those people who feels they're packed to the top with morons lacking any kind of common sense or ability to reason impartially.

Edited by glazbagun on Tuesday 8th September 11:53

[chris watton]

...And the lawyers don't mind one jot, it's win/win for them.

[Ozone]

glazbagun said:

Ozone said:

Now, if he thought his employer wasn't using green energy to power the office he could refuse to work, or any other bullst you can make up - piss boiler

Disagree. I don't see how treating it as an ethical/religious issue should neccesarily cause any problems or dangerous precidents. If one of Jehovah's Witnesses took a job as a Haematologist, then tried to sue his employer on ethical/religious grounds regarding the use of blood in medicine, he'd be laughed out of court. If he, or a Muslim or whatever took a job as a bus driver and refused to drive a bus with a blasphemous slogan written on it, then he'd might have a fair point. When courts screw up it's very well publicised, but I'm not one of those people who feels they're packed to the top with morons lacking any kind of common sense or ability to reason impartially.

Edited by glazbagun on Tuesday 8th September 11:53

Ok. I was just using that as an example.

From an environmental point of view this person could cite anything that he thinks isn't 'green' as a reason to give his employer, who then has to go away and find an alternative or just say STFU and take us to court if you're not happy - all time wasting.

[TrevorH]

Wasn't this guy just made redundant due to the normal reasons and is now kicking up a fuss?

Edited by TrevorH on Tuesday 8th September 14:31

[nonegreen]

glazbagun said:

Ozone said:

Now, if he thought his employer wasn't using green energy to power the office he could refuse to work, or any other bullst you can make up - piss boiler

Disagree. I don't see how treating it as an ethical/religious issue should neccesarily cause any problems or dangerous precidents. If one of Jehovah's Witnesses took a job as a Haematologist, then tried to sue his employer on ethical/religious grounds regarding the use of blood in medicine, he'd be laughed out of court. If he, or a Muslim or whatever took a job as a bus driver and refused to drive a bus with a blasphemous slogan written on it, then he'd might have a fair point. When courts screw up it's very well publicised, but I'm not one of those people who feels they're packed to the top with morons lacking any kind of common sense or ability to reason impartially.

Edited by glazbagun on Tuesday 8th September 11:53

Is that not the nature of this though? In truth MMGW and all religions are the domain of the psychotic, however, christianity and the Allah crap are special cases cos there are lots of nutters believe the drivel. Wheras Jehovahs witnesses are very much fringe nutters outside the US so your assertion is correct and morons or not the courts go with what pressure is put upon them. Another good example of this is of course speeding. No gummint has or has ever had a mandate to impose a speed limit much less enforce it, as 85% of population regularly and routinely break the limit. But pressure groups push the magistrates to impose ludicrous penalties while rewarding criminals by letting them off.

[Jasandjules]

It's not a recognised religion though is it......... Can't see it getting that far meself.

[esselte]

Jasandjules said:

It's not a recognised religion though is it......... Can't see it getting that far meself.

Slightly O/T but how does a religion become recognised? Or how does a belief become a religion?

[turbobloke]

esselte said:

Jasandjules said:

It's not a recognised religion though is it......... Can't see it getting that far meself.

Slightly O/T but how does a religion become recognised? Or how does a belief become a religion?

They should have cited it on their national census form - claiming to be a Gaian perhaps - if all the internet chat about Jeddi and such is accurate

[ewenm]

esselte said:

Jasandjules said:

It's not a recognised religion though is it......... Can't see it getting that far meself.

Slightly O/T but how does a religion become recognised? Or how does a belief become a religion?

Indeed. When does a belief become a cult become a religion? Longevity? Number of followers/believers? After the comedy of putting Jedi as a religion in the last census (2001?) can any set of beliefs be described as a religion?

[bobbylondonuk]

Contract stipulations regarding job tasks!

1.xxx
2.yyy
3.zzz

if you agree you have a job...dont agree? Next Please!

[Jasandjules]

esselte said:

Jasandjules said:

It's not a recognised religion though is it......... Can't see it getting that far meself.

Slightly O/T but how does a religion become recognised? Or how does a belief become a religion?

I believe (so to speak) that once 5000 people have placed a relgion on the Census form that it is in effect deemed to be so.

But not 100% sure on that. I know I put Jedi !!

[Halb]

esselte said:

Jasandjules said:

It's not a recognised religion though is it......... Can't see it getting that far meself.

Slightly O/T but how does a religion become recognised? Or how does a belief become a religion?

For practical reasons when it becomes part of the cultures consciousness I would think. There is no real number in the UK, but when I was on the census, the ONS artificially created 10,000 as a number to determine whether something deserved to have it's own reference on the census. They did this for the Jedis and TOGs. The number was thought to be safe but was smashed through several time, with the ONS raising it accordingly before realising they were losing the numbers game and decided to clump the new religions together as other.