Hyperactive children given theme park queue jump passes

Hyperactive children given theme park queue jump passes

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otolith

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58,483 posts

210 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article68...

Times said:
Hyperactive children and those with attention-deficit disorders can now queue jump at theme parks because they cannot cope with the stress of waiting in line.

Tourist boards are offering the privilege to any child with the condition so that they can skip the queue with their friends.

Teachers have criticised the scheme, saying it undermines their efforts encourage patience and it would be better for children with ADHD, attention deficit and hyperactive disorder, to learn how to wait.
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Thoughts?

lazyitus

19,926 posts

272 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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As with everything, it'll upset some and make others happy.

If you're in the 'upset' camp, just take some speed before going to a theme park.

FourWheelDrift

89,441 posts

290 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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All children have attention-deficit disorders, it's called being a child. I don't know of any that has yet developed any form of patience.

Clearly this new rule has been instigated by someone who doesn't have children.

Ps. If anyone queue jumps me they soon get told if they wouldn't mind foxtrot oscaring off somewhere else.

Edited by FourWheelDrift on Tuesday 1st September 12:56

Pints

18,445 posts

200 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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This is enough to get the piss simmering.

Another excuse for a child being a child... or for being a naughty little st who needs his/her arse caned.

Puggit

48,768 posts

254 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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To quote Bruce Burniston in the comments section:

"So ill discipline and an unwillingness to follow rules is rewarded! I suggest that people with 'normal' children avoid these tourist attractions so that all the special wristband wearers can try to jump the queue together."

I couldn't have put it better...

Alternatively I'll be trying to get my son to be diagnosed with the mysterious ADHD

Gedon

3,097 posts

182 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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It drives me mad at school. SEN or should I say ESN? are actually quite rare. What we do have is a bending over backwards for naughty children and the provision of wooden legs through a nice label.

How many time have I heard "Sir, you can't expect me to do any work, I've got UGJHGFB disorder". Label the kid and they adopt the armchair attitude.

This is just another facet of the same problem. Regardless of any difficulty you have, it is your own job to try and do your best and succeed.

It reinforces the line "Be a spacker and get a short cut". People can choose to be a spacker or not. A lot of people I know show a lot of symptoms for either aspergers, ADHD, etc. Does it stop them? NO!

Whoever thought of this st needs to be doing a menial job where their st ideas don't impinge on anyone else, specifically kids with a measure of abnormality.

Zod

35,295 posts

264 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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They'll be giving them free A grades at GCSE and A Level next.

Wait a minute, they're already doing this!

Don

28,377 posts

290 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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You can buy an "Exit Pass" at Legoland that allows you to avoid the queues for £150 or so.

If you are going during the summer school holidays it's probably worth it. It was sheer utter hell taking a four year old round. Queues an hour long for each ride...that lasted five minutes.

collateral

7,238 posts

224 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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lazyitus said:
As with everything, it'll upset some and make others happy.

If you're in the 'upset' camp, just take some speed before going to a theme park.
Although it seems like an oxymoron, some of the ADHD meds pretty much are!

Oakey

27,760 posts

222 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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collateral said:
lazyitus said:
As with everything, it'll upset some and make others happy.

If you're in the 'upset' camp, just take some speed before going to a theme park.
Although it seems like an oxymoron, some of the ADHD meds pretty much are!
What do you mean 'pretty much'? Aren't ADHD meds basically just amphetamine?

It's funny how cocaine / amphetamine has a complete opposite effect in those with ADHD. I suggested a theory on an ADHD forum that ADD / ADHD was probably a result of paternal stimulant abuse. They really didn't like that suggestion, not in the slightest. I had angry parents going mental at me and saying that it was ridiculous and their childrens disorders were simply 'genetic' (yes love, genetically inherited from you or your husbands drug abuse)

Kermit power

29,431 posts

219 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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We take our kids to Chessington on a fairly regular basis, as it's just up the road from us. We have annual passes, so we usually just go for an hour or two at either end of the day to avoid the worst of the queues, but even then my daughter and I will often end up waiting for 45 minutes or more to get on a ride.

My daughter is six. She has without exception been extremely well behaved in the queues there. Why, then, should she be made to wait any longer than those 45 minutes to take a 2 minute ride, just because someone else has a disorder?

It's annoying enough for me. I can only begin to imagine how parents would feel when they've travelled a long way to get there, and are only there for the day, with queues in the middle of the day that can be as much as 2 hours long!

I do on balance think that ADHD is a proper medical condition, and I do think there should be a certain degree of help available in school to recognise this and help ensure that sufferers (and their classmates) still get the best education possible, but there's a big difference between education and a theme park!

We used to shoot soldiers with PTSD for cowardice before we recognised the condition. In a similar vein, treating people with PTSD and giving them every possible help to get better is a good thing. Preventing anyone else from going to a fireworks display in case it scares someone with PTSD would be a bad thing.

Pints

18,445 posts

200 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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Kermit power said:
My daughter is six. She has without exception been extremely well behaved in the queues there. Why, then, should she be made to wait any longer than those 45 minutes to take a 2 minute ride, just because someone else has a disorder?
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Indeed. And quite.

Disorder my fking arse. It's naughtiness, plain and fking simple.

Vipers

33,064 posts

234 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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If they cant wait in the queu like the rest of us, dont take them, simple.

I get pissed waiting in queus, like most of us, and it would really get me irritated if said child, and brothers, mothers, sisters, father nipped in front of me.

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FourWheelDrift

89,441 posts

290 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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The children should be forced to wear collars and leads at all time to keep their "hyperactivity" under control and their parents forced to wear T-shirts saying "I produce abnormal offspring". Then make them queue up separately under a big banner saying "Undesirables" which leads into a darkened room full of lions on a starve day.

Bing o

15,184 posts

225 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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I wonder how many of the kids with ADHD have proper balanced diets that aren't packed full of e-numbers.

No such thing as ADHD, it's just lack of smacked botty syndrome.


collateral

7,238 posts

224 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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Oakey said:
collateral said:
lazyitus said:
As with everything, it'll upset some and make others happy.

If you're in the 'upset' camp, just take some speed before going to a theme park.
Although it seems like an oxymoron, some of the ADHD meds pretty much are!
What do you mean 'pretty much'? Aren't ADHD meds basically just amphetamine?

It's funny how cocaine / amphetamine has a complete opposite effect in those with ADHD. I suggested a theory on an ADHD forum that ADD / ADHD was probably a result of paternal stimulant abuse. They really didn't like that suggestion, not in the slightest. I had angry parents going mental at me and saying that it was ridiculous and their childrens disorders were simply 'genetic' (yes love, genetically inherited from you or your husbands drug abuse)
I'm unsure where you're coming from on that one...although the extent of my psych knowledge is only high school level, I remember predisposition being quite an interesting thing - nature/nurture twin studies and such.

I'd guess that stimulants having a reverse effect on someone could be an indication that they had different brain chemistry to us 'normals'

FourWheelDrift

89,441 posts

290 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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Bing o said:
I wonder how many of the kids with ADHD have proper balanced diets that aren't packed full of e-numbers.

No such thing as ADHD, it's just lack of smacked botty syndrome.
They cry because they aren't allowed fizzy drinks and sweets, their parents give in and they have a high sugar intake = hyperactivity. Coupled with sitting for hours on a sofa playing PS3s and Xboxes we are breeding a generation of lazy, slothenly, get what they want by crying................er, another generation of lazy, slothenly etc... future benefits wes.

otolith

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58,483 posts

210 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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collateral said:
I'd guess that stimulants having a reverse effect on someone could be an indication that they had different brain chemistry to us 'normals'
This suggests that it's just a function of dose. Doesn't seem implausible, if you consider the way that alcohol appears to act as a stimulant at low doses when it's just that it's depressing certain functions.

AlexS

1,560 posts

238 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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FourWheelDrift said:
The children should be forced to wear collars and leads at all time to keep their "hyperactivity" under control and their parents forced to wear T-shirts saying "I produce abnormal offspring". Then make them queue up separately under a big banner saying "Undesirables" which leads into a darkened room full of lions on a starve day.
Trouble is, those lions won't be starving for long, unless they have lots of lions!

collateral

7,238 posts

224 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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otolith said:
collateral said:
I'd guess that stimulants having a reverse effect on someone could be an indication that they had different brain chemistry to us 'normals'
This suggests that it's just a function of dose. Doesn't seem implausible, if you consider the way that alcohol appears to act as a stimulant at low doses when it's just that it's depressing certain functions.
Interesting, I wonder if the research was repeated with Adderall