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normalbloke

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225 months

Hedders

24,460 posts

253 months

Monday 31st August 2009
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wierd!

I can't figure out why the guy that hit the 'pedestrian' felt the need to try and dispose of his car though.

Surely he would have have a good defense, in the circumstances!


AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

223 months

Monday 31st August 2009
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Hedders said:
wierd!

I can't figure out why the guy that hit the 'pedestrian' felt the need to try and dispose of his car though.

Surely he would have have a good defense, in the circumstances!
He was pissed as a fart, 3 times over the limit according to the article

turbobloke

106,943 posts

266 months

Monday 31st August 2009
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AndrewW-G said:
Hedders said:
wierd!

I can't figure out why the guy that hit the 'pedestrian' felt the need to try and dispose of his car though.

Surely he would have have a good defense, in the circumstances!
He was pissed as a fart, 3 times over the limit according to the article
That was Gilheaney not Edwards, who could still have saved himself the grief of a charge of attempting to pervert the course of justice if he'd just stopped at the scene. Can't understand why people do otherwise.

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

223 months

Monday 31st August 2009
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turbobloke said:
AndrewW-G said:
Hedders said:
wierd!

I can't figure out why the guy that hit the 'pedestrian' felt the need to try and dispose of his car though.

Surely he would have have a good defense, in the circumstances!
He was pissed as a fart, 3 times over the limit according to the article
That was Gilheaney not Edwards, who could still have saved himself the grief of a charge of attempting to pervert the course of justice if he'd just stopped at the scene. Can't understand why people do otherwise.
Sorry, yes you are right, having re-read it, would seem his deffence is that he panicked

GreigM

6,737 posts

255 months

Monday 31st August 2009
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turbobloke said:
AndrewW-G said:
Hedders said:
wierd!

I can't figure out why the guy that hit the 'pedestrian' felt the need to try and dispose of his car though.

Surely he would have have a good defense, in the circumstances!
He was pissed as a fart, 3 times over the limit according to the article
That was Gilheaney not Edwards, who could still have saved himself the grief of a charge of attempting to pervert the course of justice if he'd just stopped at the scene. Can't understand why people do otherwise.
Because the penalties for any car related offence are so disproportionately large that it forces an irrational response - murder a granny though and you'll get an ASBO

glazbagun

14,431 posts

203 months

Monday 31st August 2009
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GreigM said:
turbobloke said:
AndrewW-G said:
Hedders said:
wierd!

I can't figure out why the guy that hit the 'pedestrian' felt the need to try and dispose of his car though.

Surely he would have have a good defense, in the circumstances!
He was pissed as a fart, 3 times over the limit according to the article
That was Gilheaney not Edwards, who could still have saved himself the grief of a charge of attempting to pervert the course of justice if he'd just stopped at the scene. Can't understand why people do otherwise.
Because the penalties for any car related offence are so disproportionately large that it forces an irrational response - murder a granny though and you'll get an ASBO
Except that causing death by Careless Driving is one of the most sentence-light ways of killing someone possible.

Edited by glazbagun on Monday 31st August 20:55

Hedders

24,460 posts

253 months

Monday 31st August 2009
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Is it really careless driving if you run someone over who is lying in the road?

I would have thought that was just bad luck for all involved!


thinfourth2

32,414 posts

210 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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Hedders said:
Is it really careless driving if you run someone over who is lying in the road?

I would have thought that was just bad luck for all involved!
No good luck for the population as we are down a car thief

hugo a gogo

23,379 posts

239 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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so the car thieves were on the wrong side of the road, and hit someone coming the other way

then the 4x4 fella was coming from 'the opposite direction' (opposite of whom?) and hit the ejected passenger

I can't work out if he was following the car thieves or the innocent guy's car

either way, he sees a massive smash and barrels right through the middle of it, running over scattered debris and chavs? sounds a bit careless to me

Hedders

24,460 posts

253 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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I guess we don't know enough. He could have just been overtaken by the car and not had time to slow down as the crash was happening around him.

Or it could have been careless driving!


normalbloke

Original Poster:

7,639 posts

225 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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Hedders said:
Is it really careless driving if you run someone over who is lying in the road?

I would have thought that was just bad luck for all involved!
Well,unless the guy was ejected into the immediate path of the car,no.If he was already lying in the road, it's pretty pants driving from the guy in the 4x4, given that you should always be able to stop in the distance that you see to be clear.

Hedders

24,460 posts

253 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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normalbloke said:
Hedders said:
Is it really careless driving if you run someone over who is lying in the road?

I would have thought that was just bad luck for all involved!
Well,unless the guy was ejected into the immediate path of the car,no.If he was already lying in the road, it's pretty pants driving from the guy in the 4x4, given that you should always be able to stop in the distance that you see to be clear.
These days you are not expected to be able to stop in the distance you can see to be lcear. You are expected to obey the speed limit, blindly.

Maybe he was busy checking his speedo, which is not careless, no sirree.

hehe


MaxAndRuby

6,792 posts

238 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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Edwards was probably pissed too.

shakotan

10,777 posts

202 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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hugo a gogo said:
so the car thieves were on the wrong side of the road, and hit someone coming the other way
There is no 'wrong' side of the road.

Hedders

24,460 posts

253 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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shakotan said:
hugo a gogo said:
so the car thieves were on the wrong side of the road, and hit someone coming the other way
There is no 'wrong' side of the road.
Tell that to Edwards hehe



Edited by Hedders on Tuesday 1st September 15:18

hugo a gogo

23,379 posts

239 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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shakotan said:
hugo a gogo said:
so the car thieves were on the wrong side of the road, and hit someone coming the other way
There is no 'wrong' side of the road.
very zen

there is something of a convention for which side of the road one should normally drive though, i believe

shakotan

10,777 posts

202 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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hugo a gogo said:
shakotan said:
hugo a gogo said:
so the car thieves were on the wrong side of the road, and hit someone coming the other way
There is no 'wrong' side of the road.
very zen

there is something of a convention for which side of the road one should normally drive though, i believe
You may use any part of the road, as long as safe to do so, and not restricted by road markings/signs.

Agreed that 'conventionally' we drive in the left most lane(s) of a carriageway though.

hugo a gogo

23,379 posts

239 months

Tuesday 1st September 2009
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shakotan said:
hugo a gogo said:
shakotan said:
hugo a gogo said:
so the car thieves were on the wrong side of the road, and hit someone coming the other way
There is no 'wrong' side of the road.
very zen

there is something of a convention for which side of the road one should normally drive though, i believe
You may use any part of the road, as long as safe to do so, and not restricted by road markings/signs.

Agreed that 'conventionally' we drive in the left most lane(s) of a carriageway though.
that whole "100mph death crash" thing tends to undermine any claims that it was 'safe to do so' though, doesn't it?