2p fuel duty rise this week

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Monki

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1,233 posts

197 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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Great......

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/A...



Story reads :

Motorists already facing rising pump prices will be hit by another Government fuel duty increase this week.

Despite intense lobbying to get it to reverse its decision, the Government is pressing ahead with a planned 2p a litre rise in fuel duty on Tuesday.

With VAT included, the rise will actually be 2.3p at a time when the average price of petrol has risen to about 105p a litre.

Motoring organisations fear that the 2.3p a litre increase could soon become a 5p rise as oil prices worldwide increase.

The RAC said that a 5p increase would mean the average two-car family spending an extra £120 a year on petrol.

The duty rise will be the third in nine months following rises in April and December. Petrol prices at the start of 2009 were roughly 85p a litre but could now reach 110p a litre within weeks.

This rise of 25p over the past nine months equates to roughly £300 extra per year per car, or £600 more a year for the average two-car family.

RAC motoring strategist Adrian Tink said: "This third fuel duty hike is unacceptable. The Chancellor seems to regard Britain's 30 million motorists as a soft target for tax and with this latest rise he risks alienating them even further."

Mr Tink said that it was planned to raise fuel duty yet again in April. He went on: "With VAT also returning to 17.5% it could be a very long winter for motorists."


Jasandjules

70,420 posts

235 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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Govt in get as much money from the motorist as they can shock.......

andrewws

282 posts

230 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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I am utterly, utterly sick of this government. They always take the easy option without even considering the wider picture, does this stupid chancellor realise that this tax rise affects everything and everyone. What will they do with the extra revenue generated, save the planet maybe? Use it to finance their pensions/expenses? Or is the green excuse in the background for a later tax hike? We are unfortunatley an oil driven society at the moment, so we have no option but to pay yet more. I am also sure when Daves lot get in they will blame the scumbags in goverment at present, when they raise the tax yet again.


Halb

53,012 posts

189 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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andrewws said:
We are unfortunatley an oil driven society at the moment, so we have no option but to pay yet more. I am also sure when Daves lot get in they will blame the scumbags in goverment at present, when they raise the tax yet again.
I agree. Dave will get in, and then also rise it. The motorist as a lobby are pretty weak.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

268 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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andrewws said:
I am utterly, utterly sick of this government. They always take the easy option without even considering the wider picture, does this stupid chancellor realise that this tax rise affects everything and everyone.
Look simple maths

what's 17.5% of £1 17.5 pence right

what's 17.5% of say £1.50 26.25 pence

so the higher the prices they gain even more. Now look at how the prices of almost everything has soared and see just how much hidden revenue is being generated.

Asterix

24,438 posts

234 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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Slighty O/T.

I noticed this article today - another cost for the road user but this time without any pretence that it is anything other than gaining revenue.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/ind...

Admittedly, there is no mention that it will be taken up but I'm sure Labour are seriously considering it.

turbobloke

106,943 posts

266 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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Times Online article said:
Road tolls are unpopular, however. When Labour mooted road pricing two years ago, more than 230,000 signed a petition on the Downing Street (website) decrying the plan.
Well, 1.8 million signatures is more than 230,000 but the use of that low figure suggests pro-road charging spin - since it must either refer to another related petition or represent an early interim figure curiously used instead of the final total. How interesting.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

261 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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It's no good trying to hide, Darling, I'll have you, you thieving git....irked

handpaper

1,347 posts

209 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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In other news, my LPG conversion is finally complete and reliable biggrin
47.9p/l makes me smile every time I fill up smokin

unrepentant

21,671 posts

262 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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Halb said:
andrewws said:
We are unfortunatley an oil driven society at the moment, so we have no option but to pay yet more. I am also sure when Daves lot get in they will blame the scumbags in goverment at present, when they raise the tax yet again.
I agree. Dave will get in, and then also rise it. The motorist as a lobby are pretty weak.
Don't forget it was a Tory chancellor who introduced the "fuel tax escalator".

Given that Browns policies have left the country so skint that our soldiers are no longer allowed to practice with real bullets we can get used to plenty more of this....

him_over_there

970 posts

212 months

Monday 31st August 2009
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Noticed the BBC reporters this morning were saying that fuel was going up by a tuppence. Why can't they just say 2p!

Edited by him_over_there on Monday 31st August 09:47

turbobloke

106,943 posts

266 months

Monday 31st August 2009
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After tax on the tax it's 2.3p

schmalex

13,616 posts

212 months

Monday 31st August 2009
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Playing devils advocate for a moment, our fuel is still significantly cheaper than most other Western European countries

oldsoak

5,618 posts

208 months

Monday 31st August 2009
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my earlier post said:
...3 weeks ago unleaded fuel was available at 99.9 p per litre...it has gradually crept up to 103.9 p per litre ahead of the increase in tax...from Midnight that 103.9 ppl becomes 105.9ppl...What's the betting that 107.9 is actually the price that will be advertised as the oil companies try to increase their profits whilst blaming the tax rise?
How wrong I was!
The garage I was basing my prophesy of 107.9ppl on has upped it's price to 108.9...So Mr Brown & Co once more your bumbling (not the word I first wrote) has cost your voters (who can't claim it back on expenses) not an extra 2p per litre but 5p...good show! NOT...Also haulage firms will soon be imposing a fuel levy charge in order to pay for the fuel they need to deliver the goods to the supermarket shelves, the knock on effect is the manufacturers who send their goods via road haulage companies will charge more for their goods to the shops, the shops will sell it for even more and we the voters get right royally shafted yet again when we buy the goods.
Where is Guy Fawkes when you need him?

Edited by oldsoak on Wednesday 2nd September 15:08

blueg33

38,038 posts

230 months

Monday 31st August 2009
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turbobloke said:
After tax on the tax it's 2.3p
Tax on a tax really makes my blood boil, theiving lazy governement t***s

turbobloke

106,943 posts

266 months

Monday 31st August 2009
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schmalex said:
Playing devils advocate for a moment, our fuel is still significantly cheaper than most other Western European countries
It's close though, see the Eurozone prices in this table for August 2009:

http://www.theaa.com/onlinenews/allaboutcars/fuel/...

Euro currency countries aren't the whole EU obviously but of those using the Euro it's close to 50:50 on relative price (and it would be interesting to see what proportion of each per litre price is tax, and tax on tax).


speedchick

5,194 posts

228 months

Monday 31st August 2009
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I know that there is probably a very simple reason for it, but why it is priced at X.9p per litre? what's the point 9 for?

ShadownINja

77,401 posts

288 months

Monday 31st August 2009
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speedchick said:
I know that there is probably a very simple reason for it, but why it is priced at X.9p per litre? what's the point 9 for?
Complete guess but that might be down to garages. Marketing fing.

oldsoak

5,618 posts

208 months

Monday 31st August 2009
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Because it LOOKS cheaper.

speedchick

5,194 posts

228 months

Monday 31st August 2009
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So what would happen if you went in with a jerry can and put exactly 2 litres in? I am assuming that they would round it up the .2p but surely that would be overcharging you and so therefore very wrong? Just a big con really!